Walsh Park. We were out of the senior championship at the stage last year which certainly helped our chances and allowed for far more focus. There is around 15 lads on both panels which isn’t ideal. We will have a fine side on paper with the majority of last years team still there but that counts for little.
Final in Thurles in Clare win, Walsh Park if Waterford win.
Hopefully O’Shea will give a good few of them a real chance next year. Kennedy really impressed at wing back I thought, while Stapleton also looked the part in midfield.
Clare team for tomorrow night:
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Ronan Taafe [/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Paul Flanagan[/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=12px]David McInerney[/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Jack Browne[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Seadna Morey[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Alan O Neill[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Stephen O halloran[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Colm Galvin [/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Tony Kelly[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Peter Duggan[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Podge Collins[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Aaron Cunningham[/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=12px]Cathal O’Connell[/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Daire Keane[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Verdana]Shane O Donnell[/FONT][/SIZE]
Cork looked physically underdeveloped compared to Tipp. Is there a food crisis in Cork or something?
Cork have been poorly coached for 3 years at Minor and 21’s, it’s hardly a surprise.
Paying for years of neglect now, beating Clare in senior papered over some cracks, ominous signs v Limerick though, bringing on Cussen ffs…
Ken will surely get another crack at the senior gig.
How many of the Cork lads from last night played Fitzgibbon hurling?
Bringing in a footballer who wasn’t with them all year is a disgrace. What message is that sending.
Mickey Harte didn’t have an issue with it
serious problems the underage structure in Cork, i actually had hope for Cork against Kilkenny, not anymore after that abject display. Kilkenny will hockey us. wtf is up with lehane? surely will be dropped the next day. Cork Gaa anouncing new development for PUC, more in their line to pump it in the clubs and underage structure and get competitive again.:mad:
Too much being invested in Fitzgibbon teams.
But a Fitzgibbon is worth more.
Jesus but cork were shithouse last night…
By the by…if I didnt know better Id say all ye scamps were ignoring the below post I made in the AISHC thread…dont know enough about the Fitzgibbon myself to be perfectly honest, but someone else shares Kevs view. Cork is such a big county makes a lot of sense that having the players together for Fitz is easier than pulling together players from 100+ clubs at underage grades.
[quote=“dancarter, post: 803069, member: 122”]Just reading Saturdays times sports section there. Interesting article basically underpinning Caoimhin view on Cork building side based on Fitzgibbob[/quote][quote=“dancarter, post: 803069, member: 122”]
[quote=“dancarter, post: 803340, member: 122”]Jesus but cork were shithouse last night…
By the by…if I didnt know better Id say all ye scamps were ignoring the below post I made in the AISHC thread…dont know enough about the Fitzgibbon myself to be perfectly honest, but someone else shares Kevs view. Cork is such a big county makes a lot of sense that having the players together for Fitz is easier than pulling together players from 100+ clubs at underage grades.
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The article said that 10 of the Cork team had played Fitzgibbon Cup for UCC. I doubt they all played on the same Fitzgibbon team, Tom Kenny for one.
How many of them have played underage for Cork? More than 10 I would bet.
They can win 10 Fitzgibbon Cups in a row but Cork hurling is going nowhere until they get the proper structures and coaching into their underage teams.
The lack of success of their Senior team is a direct correlation to their lack of success at minor and U-21. They haven’t won a Minor in 12 years or an U21 in 15 years.
Is Micky Harte coaching hurling now?
Otherwise that’s one of the most stupidly irrelevant comments you have ever made.
[quote=“Mullach Ide, post: 803357, member: 141”]The article said that 10 of the Cork team had played Fitzgibbon Cup for UCC. I doubt they all played on the same Fitzgibbon team, Tom Kenny for one.
How many of them have played underage for Cork? More than 10 I would bet.
They can win 10 Fitzgibbon Cups in a row but Cork hurling is going nowhere until they get the proper structures and coaching into their underage teams.
The lack of success of their Senior team is a direct correlation to their lack of success at minor and U-21. They haven’t won a Minor in 12 years or an U21 in 15 years.[/quote]
I absolutely agree Mullach. That’s the thing, I don’t think we can rely on the Fitz/Sigerson alone. But it has worked in recent years for Cork. This years hurling team would be in Div 2 and long since out of hurling without the Fitz.
I never ever said it was the only way, and I also stated several times it would probably only ever work with Cork an maybe Limerick. On top of the that the Cork Development squads are run thru the 2 Colleges, so there is a direction there.
Cork HAVE the hurlers. I’m 100% sure of that. The development squads are well set up and pretty well looked after. The issue is there is a complete disconnect between the Develoent people who coach at 14-17 and the County Board who bring in the old CB lads for the Minor and U21 jobs.
A blind man could see Ger Fitz is not up to that level of management. He had very little coaching experience before it. Kenneally over the Minors is just a bully and is absolutely terrible for young fellas. These 2 are the exact example of that phrase I heard recently about a coach can improve a team by 5% but can disimprove them by 30%. Kenneally got alot of credit for coaching Valley Robers to an Intermediate county yet it was a freakishly talented group for a relatively small club and they lost half the squad for the next 2 years with various injuries. These are guys that if they got a job at Nemo or Ballyboden or somewhere they’d be fucked out after 3 weeks.
[quote=“Mullach Ide, post: 803357, member: 141”]The article said that 10 of the Cork team had played Fitzgibbon Cup for UCC. I doubt they all played on the same Fitzgibbon team, Tom Kenny for one.
How many of them have played underage for Cork? More than 10 I would bet.
They can win 10 Fitzgibbon Cups in a row but Cork hurling is going nowhere until they get the proper structures and coaching into their underage teams.
The lack of success of their Senior team is a direct correlation to their lack of success at minor and U-21. They haven’t won a Minor in 12 years or an U21 in 15 years.[/quote]
They all won a Fitz in the past 3 years bar Kenny.
Would the policy of the colleges be to prefer Cork players over players from other counties?
Absolutely not. Sure UCC have had teams with 13 Kerrymen in football and a few years ago when John Tennyson was there it was heavily Tipp & KK. They make a point of it not being that way. CIT traditionally, like most tech colleges, would h e a bigger population of locals as students tend to be able to find tech courses close to home. Their sports program certainly attracts more outsiders now with an extensive scholarship program. But CIT is definitely more “Cork”.