I canāt wait for the forumās resident adolescent expert TAN to comment on thisā¦
[quote=āFingalRaven, post: 785499, member: 80ā]what the fuck?
this is your chance to shine on this forum and you arent grasping the opportunity[/quote]
Taking tips on child rearing from mac? FFS sake, thats like taking hair care and styling tips from me
[quote=āMac, post: 785496, member: 109ā]Yer man Colm OāGorman is involved with them and anything he gets involved with us generally evil.
Secondly, my understanding of them is that basically the kids donāt have to do anything that the kids donāt want to do. There doesnāt seem to be any kind of authority within the schools which I donāt think is good practice as it shapes how a person thinks for the rest of their life. If someone grows up with little or no respect for authority I donāt think its a good thing. Iām sure there are studies saying this is good but thatās just my take on it. Obviously weāve a history of schools going over the top to assert their authority so I think the balance is somewhere in the middle.
Finally, they call all their teachers by their first name I believe, seems plain weird.[/quote]
Iāve a good friend who has taught in both and much prefers educate together. Mainstream schools are consumed with religion and not enough science. In her educate together time she got to teach about the differences in sexuality, she is in a mainstream school now and if she mentioned gay or lesbian she would be nearly fired. Itās little things like that that go on to shape our minds kid. Youād rather they be beat to a pulp and institutionalized with Christian rhetoric?
Report out yesterday claimed that Irish kids are twice as unhappy in school than their European counterparts. I wonder why?!
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[quote=āMac, post: 785496, member: 109ā]Yer man Colm OāGorman is involved with them and anything he gets involved with us generally evil.
Secondly, my understanding of them is that basically the kids donāt have to do anything that the kids donāt want to do. There doesnāt seem to be any kind of authority within the schools which I donāt think is good practice as it shapes how a person thinks for the rest of their life. If someone grows up with little or no respect for authority I donāt think its a good thing. Iām sure there are studies saying this is good but thatās just my take on it. Obviously weāve a history of schools going over the top to assert their authority so I think the balance is somewhere in the middle.
Finally, they call all their teachers by their first name I believe, seems plain weird.[/quote]
Other than the first and last sentences I think youāve been fed some lies there Mac.
[quote=āChocolateMice, post: 785506, member: 168ā]Iāve a good friend who has taught in both and much prefers educate together. Mainstream schools are consumed with religion and not enough science. In her educate together time she got to teach about the differences in sexuality, she is in a mainstream school now and if she mentioned gay or lesbian she would be nearly fired. Itās little things like that that go on to shape our minds kid. Youād rather they be beat to a pulp and institutionalized with Christian rhetoric?
Report out yesterday claimed that Irish kids are twice as unhappy in school than their European counterparts. I wonder why?![/quote]
What type of mainstream school? I thought a load of them had abandoned their religious focus to more of a world religion focus rather than catholic led.
Steiner, my hole tase. Itās based on the belief that kids should be allowed develop as they wish and they donāt believe in discipline. Iām all for self expression but discipline is a must.
Montessori is great in that it supposedly emphasises learning through play, focussing on relative concepts and context (understanding the world, i suppose). But these days most should be doing this. As with all schools, your kids will only be as good as the teacher/ system lets them be.
Private schooling is excellent for accountability and facilities and should be no problem for a man of your means.
[quote=āJuhniallio, post: 785578, member: 53ā]Steiner, my hole tase. Itās based on the belief that kids should be allowed develop as they wish and they donāt believe in discipline. Iām all for self expression but discipline is a must.
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Is this not what Educate Together is based on?
Your run of the mill national school. During her interview the priest, who gets to sit in, grilled her on how she would teach religion. I also house share with a teacher and he, a religious man too, and he said it is taught way too much and should be kept off the curriculum altogether.
[quote=āJuhniallio, post: 785578, member: 53ā]Steiner, my hole tase. Itās based on the belief that kids should be allowed develop as they wish and they donāt believe in discipline. Iām all for self expression but discipline is a must.
Montessori is great in that it supposedly emphasises learning through play, focussing on relative concepts and context (understanding the world, i suppose). But these days most should be doing this. As with all schools, your kids will only be as good as the teacher/ system lets them be.
Private schooling is excellent for accountability and facilities and should be no problem for a man of your means.[/quote]
Not forgetting all the myths, legends and folk tales your child would learn in the Steiner school system and that theyād be accomplished basket weavers, potters etc. by their early teens
Mac has some funny views on things, but heās bang in about the discipline.
Canāt see why calling the teachers by their first names is an issue though. Itās only old British colonialism tht created all these Mr, Sir, etc etc. we are all given names and they should be used accordingly. It also builds stronger bonds between people to use first names. A very important thing for kids and teachers (IMO) and I think allows for an easier understanding of authority, and a less fearful one.
Last year I had Aussie kids call me coach when teaching them gaelic, thought it was bizarre so I told them to call me Kev and asked why they did it, an apparently they are made so it at whatever school they web to, by the coach. Thatās bullshit IMO and just some jump up thinking heās in āFriday night lightsā.
Community schooling is the way to go, itās up to the parents to police them staying away from the wrong crowd. Builds a more rounded character than any other type if schooling I believe.
[quote=āJuhniallio, post: 785578, member: 53ā]Steiner, my hole tase. Itās based on the belief that kids should be allowed develop as they wish and they donāt believe in discipline. Iām all for self expression but discipline is a must.
Montessori is great in that it supposedly emphasises learning through play, focussing on relative concepts and context (understanding the world, i suppose). But these days most should be doing this. As with all schools, your kids will only be as good as the teacher/ system lets them be.
Private schooling is excellent for accountability and facilities and should be no problem for a man of your means.[/quote]
at last, a coherent voice compared with the TFK dullards
its Oz mateā¦no matter where you send her she will be surrounded by vermonā¦
No.
Can I pull something from left field on this threadā¦
Who educated Polish kids and today young polish adults on the nutritional value of food and the benefits of regular exercise?
Why was this missed by the Irish education system and left to the advertising agencies for the food industry to educate us?
Did you not get taught about the food triangle? (Sponsored by Kelloggs)
Weāve put the little one down for an Educate Together but it remains to be seen whether she will get in. Serious demand for places in Dublin.
The idea of developing respect for your elders and peers through effective communication and mutual understanding rather than instilling fear and unreasonable boundaries appeals to me.
Calling teachers by their first name seems completely normal to me.
[quote=āKinvaraās Passion, post: 785602, member: 686ā]Can I pull something from left field on this threadā¦
Who educated Polish kids and today young polish adults on the nutritional value of food and the benefits of regular exercise?
Why was this missed by the Irish education system and left to the advertising agencies for the food industry to educate us?[/quote]
Ever spend much time in the polish food shops kp? A much higher percentage of pickled/salt dried stuff in comparison to here. Not exactly organic fare.
They have mastered the shit out of cabbage though.
Sounds like a breeding ground for spoiled little cunts.
I bet that Ben young fella in Fair City goes to one of them schools.
[quote=āThe Runt, post: 785607, member: 181ā]Sounds like a breeding ground for spoiled little cunts.
I bet that Ben young fella in Fair City goes to one of them schools.[/quote]
Iād rather my child be confident and open-minded than repressed by nuns