You asked who âthemâ was, when i posted i want âthemâ to explain out a viewpoint that was retweeted. I said it was anyone that had put forward this before, or agreed with it. Anyone, there was no exhaustive list, no one banned from giving an opinion as you suggest (where is my pre selected list set out?)
The censorship seems based on who you agree with personally. Your right as its your forum but its a stretch to say it has no basis in reality. You have other admins, im not going to write anything libellous or name anyone so honestly use that ignore function, i do and its a massive improvement.
You said âlet them answerâ when @Batigol was discussing it. You basically wanted to turn this into a binary debate with people you have had this debate with before. Itâs immature and boring and frankly itâs not your place to decide who gets to have an opinion.
Thatâs simply not true. There are plenty of people I donât agree with. Many people I donât agree with on nearly every topic. Very very few people have been banned from here. There have been very good reasons for anyone who was banned. If you think this place is restrictive I think you are living a very sheltered existence.
And I donât think ânot writing anything libellousâ is a virtuous as you seem to think. Itâs sort of expected.
The whole point as i stated was i had tried to debate this before but got no reply. Again at no point did i restrict who could debate or decide who gets to have an opinion. Youve put this forward a few times without backing it up by showing where i did so.
What were the reasons posters were banned? Why was HBV continuously banned?
Iâve answered this already. You seem to be ignoring the meaning behind you posting:
Let them answer i want to hear the reasoning
when someone else responded to your question.
Itâs not really convincing me of the merits of your other points when you continue to pretend this was not an attempt to shift the conversation into a binary debate with specific people. And to be honest Iâve heard enough for you on this point. I donât think youâll concede it so as I said much earlier: Iâve made my point. My question was rhetorical. You donât want a discussion. You want a shouting match.
Different reasons for different posters.
HBV was repeatedly racist. He had many unpalatable posts over many years. But Iâm not going to debate this with you here. If you donât like the moderation rules and think theyâre too strict then Iâm sure you can find somewhere more tolerant of your wonderful opinions. And HBV had always had the opportunity to ask me anything but Iâm not going to discuss him at length with someone else.
Iâve said this before but just to make it clear. This site isnât a democracy. People seem to have unreasonable expectations on how free speech works. If youâre an annoying fucker who contributes nothing positive and refuse to change when asked to do so then you run the risk of being banned. This is not a course of action that we take in any way frequently. But being an asshole for an extended period of time is not something I like to encourage.
I wanted a debate, batigol was fully right in his point, i should have said, âcorrect but lets hear what people who have the other point of view have to say, as i cant see their logicâ i certaintly wasnât shutting him down as you seem to be suggesting but just plain agreement with me is not a debate. In fairness stonecold did reply and acknowledged its far more nuanced than first seems.
Im not fighting hbvâs corner, heâs well able to do so, i was just using his case to point out the arbitrariness of the moderation. Heâs not the only one who says racist or crude things, or who falls into your broad categorisation, so theres no free speech red line here that you suggest he or anyone crossed. simply being an âannoying fuckerâ is completely subjective to your opinion. I like the hurling and NFL talk and the odd toe dipped elsewhere, but not a lot of posters on here, you not too subtly suggesting i leave isnât a bit reasonable really. but its your site, mind you you should have been a bit more open to other posters moderating etc especially in light of the fact you have gotten a lot of voluntary contributions, but then you really should have charged for membership or whatever for years no reason you should have been out of pocket.
if you want to discuss this further pm away this thread has been clogged up enough
Thatâs an almost coherent student rant and then you get to the paragraph titled âGearâ. Chilling stuff. Looks like the original thread was the correct one, very definitely a terrorist attack.
