Of course Speed was an issue unless she was driving on a complete flat. Either way she is completely responsible & should be prosecuted accordingly.
I didn’t have you down for a townie type viewpoint on this.
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No NCT
No licence
No accompanying driver.
An awful tragedy all the same and you’d have to feel for the girl with all of this being brought up and in the public eye again three years later.
In fairness if it was a young lad rather than a young one I doubt there’d be as much sympathy
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From the Independent. Last line.
Earlier, the prosecution’s case was opened by Mr Boland who told the jury the case involved a fatal road traffic accident that happened at 9.45pm on the N78 at Burtown in Athy.
It was an almost new road, it was a reasonable straight stretch and had a good surface, he said. The weather conditions were good, with no frost or rain and no speed was involved with either of the vehicles.
You don’t think it’s possible if she was driving slower she wouldn’t have kept control of the vehicle? Generally you’ll feel if a car is unstable when driving, especially a small car like a polo. Just because she may not have been breaking the limit doesn’t mean she wasn’t driving too fast to keep control of the car. It doesn’t mean she wasn’t driving dangerously. Which is why the case is going on I imagine.
She was young, inexperienced and foolish, but it shouldn’t excuse her breaking the law, if she did.
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I thought you had Monaghan connections? Hit the diff is surely on twice a day
Maybe I picked it up wrong, but the radio report I heard in the car earlier seemed to suggest that she had not long bought the car and it had a dodgy NCT.
The lads on TFK who read a headline know better though 
What a surprise
You wouldn’t be laughing if she ploughed into your Galaxy with the family aboard. Dickhead.
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The trial has been told the NCT certificate on Ms Kearney’s car had expired eight months before the crash.
Sergeant Donal O’Sullivan said when he interviewed the driver after the crash she said she bought the 2001 Volkswagen Polo on website Donedeal under the impression the NCT was in place until March of 2015, but when her mother enquired about the certificate she was told it had in fact expired in May 2014, eight months before the crash.
Doesn’t say anything explicitly about a dodgy disc. Bit vague on whether she knew it was expired at the time of the crash.
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Whenever you load people into your Vehicle, you are fully responsible as regards it’s Road worthiness unless someone else Ploughs into you.
How many people have ever read their Operator manuals when they buy a new or used Car? Hardly anyone.
This sad case along with so many others where young inexperienced drivers are involved in horrific accidents just proves exactly why all children need proper instruction in schools. We educate kids to be sociable, learn & provide for themselves with work.
But it’s actually okay to let them off in 2 Tonne Vehicles with little basic knowledge.
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I doubt a dodgy nct or poorly inflated tyres caused this in truth. Far more likely to be distraction or falling asleep.
She would do jail time in the UK I suspect. At the bottom of it all, she could have been in a brand new Mercedes, she was driving illegally, and shouldn’t have been on the road. This is compounded by a car who’s nct had expired by almost a year, and may or may not have been roadworthy. I suspect she will get a suspended sentence.
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But there is no mention that any of this happened. She may well have been driving the car slowly and the car still acted the way it did. I am sure that had there been an issue with speed, even if not over the speed limit, it would have been brought up. To say otherwise is pure speculation.
Interestingly the cat eyes on the road were higher than their maximum level and this hasn’t been disputed by the prosecution. It seems as if this accident was all about millmetres here and there so this could well be another potential factor.
The car was sideways when it collided with the oncoming vehicle. Do the math.
Speed not being mentioned at all as a factor. You do the math.
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agreed w.r.t. the NCT
they have no model to understand how the car allegedly malfunctioned, if they understood the cause of failure they could then establish whether it was something that was checked for in the NCT,
currently what % of cars are on the road w/o a valid NCT? and what % of those are involved in fatal accidents? is it higher or lower that cars with a valid NCT
we’d need to see the data before making call
in the absence of any logic and if we are going purely off opinion i would guesstimate that she was distracted by conversation in the car and snapchat or what not, this is reckless driving and she is the cause of their death
she should be sentenced for mansalughter and go inside for a long stetch
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But the witnesses described the car crossing the road in a manner which was not ‘normal’. I assume by that they mean that it wasn’t a simple ‘loss of concentration’ type thing.
On the NCT, I am not sure how relevant that is. The key thing the roadworthiness of the car when she drove and the only thing pointed to in this respect is the inflation of the tyres. Now maybe it was a case that the car got so badly smashed up that they couldn’t tell but there is no indication of that yet.
I can honestly say that I wouldn’t check the inflation of my tyres unless I noticed the tyres being soft or nearly flat, and to be honest I wouldn’t even check for that all the time. To me, and it is just my opinion, it seems very harsh to charge someone with such a serious crime on something which is not reasonably detected in the normal course of events.
Then again there could be a whole raft of further evidence to come but that is my take on it at the moment.
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I find whatever Math your using which gives you an idea that this girl is beyond blame astounding.
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I never said that you idiot.
So I take it you’re done with the speed point.
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A car was purchased, she drove it, she piled her mates into it and they were involved in a horrific accident and you can’t see blame being pointed at her as fair?
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