Yup. That’d be reckless. As is lashing pints and snorting lines, tut tut Mick.
I agree, but if you punch a lad, whatever the reason, and he gets up and wanders off, there is usually no major issue. If he hits his head on the kerb, whilst the act is no different, the result and the legal ramifications are. Such is life really. There’s plenty doing time for things others never gave a second thought due entirely to luck, or lack thereof. Sending the lass to jail is, to an extent pointless, but if it were a donegal lad, I suspect the jury would have contemplated a bit longer, and rightly. It sends a poor message really
She should certainly be prosecuted for the other inarguable offences notwithstanding.
Neither you, anybody else in the car nor the car itself are certified fit to be on the road?
I think it comes down to character. Some people are full of abandon, don’t put much pass on rules, and have a devil may care attitude. Get their first car and fly off in it without L Plates and a valid NCT. They don’t mean harm and it’s not badness, but it’s not right either.
Others are cautious and reserved and can be overly by the book, maybe too much so in some respects. When I was learning to drive in my late teens, twenties, early thirties and mid thirties, I never drove unaccompanied. Firstly because I was a brutal driver but secondly because I was very mindful of that and didn’t want to put myself and/or others at risk.
as is driving home knackered after a long day or going in with no sleep
anyway
its a digression here from he facts
she is responsible for the deaths of 4 people- and was found not guilty-unbelievably- how can this be justified?
Yes, that’s the bottom line here. I do have a lot of sympathy for the young girl. She did something that tens of thousands of young people have done, getting behind the wheel as an inexperienced learner driver unaccompanied. That doesn’t make that okay though and when things go wrong there are often consequences. There are obviously no criminal consequences for here as she was acquitted but she’s probably got to deal with a lot worse for the rest of her life.
It sends a poor message really. She should certainly be prosecuted for the other inarguable offences notwithstanding.
Absolutely.
Didn’t they toughen up the penalties for learner drivers driving unaccompanied last year in the wake of that incident in north Cork? The young lass was driving unaccompanied and failed to stop at a yield sign and hit her neighbours’ car and the mother and daughter in it were killed after the car careered into a flooded field and overturned. Awful stuff. I have a feeling this incident being discussed here predated the Cork case so not sure what other prosecutions, if any, can be taken.
I don’t think there’s an offence of reckless driving in Ireland, but driving unaccompanied is more at the lower end of negligent I’d say.
I would imagine an unaccompanied teenager getting behind the wheel of a shonky car is a bigger menace than a poor auld lad like myself having 3 or 4 quiet pints and tipping home on a back road.
Imagine away.
Yawn.
she is responsible for the deaths of 4 people- and was found not guilty-unbelievably- how can this be justified?
How is she responsible mate?
It has been more or less accepted that nothing could have been done in this case to prevent these deaths. Yes she had no accompanied driver like she is required to have but would that have saved the girls lives? The car lost control due to a slow puncture outside of her control and once it did there was nothing she could have done to stop it.
Definitely the correct decision for me.
What caused the deaths of the girls though?
Surely that’s the biggest issue?
And did the girl do anything to contribute to that?
The car was mechanically spot on other than this tyre issue which she couldn’t have known about. Who cares if she didn’t have a bit of paper six months old displayed which tells us irrelevant information?!
What caused the deaths of the girls though?
Surely that’s the biggest issue?
And did the girl do anything to contribute to that?
The car was mechanically spot on other than this tyre issue which she couldn’t have known about. Who cares if she didn’t have a bit of paper six months old displayed which tells us irrelevant information?!
The girl drove. I think that contributed to the deaths. If she hadn’t of driven the other girls would still be alive.
Drove but didn’t do anything wrong in her driving.
You would send someone down for that?
Drove but didn’t do anything wrong in her driving.
You would send someone down for that?
She shouldn’t have been driving though.
If I were the judge, I wouldn’t have sent her down though if she had been convicted.
So you are effectively saying to the girl that she killed her four friends and the only thing she did wrong was something which half the provisional licence drivers in this country do anyway. Also there was no problem at all with her actual driving on the day.
That’s a joke.
Also driving without an accompanied licensed driver for any person has a penalty for itself. And no doubt she has received penalty points.
Provisional drivers are subject to the rules of the road once they take the drivers seat and none of these rules were broken in this case.
Some lads are taking this very badly, the drink drivers aren’t a bit happy