Nonsense. I think the slow puncture thing is a sop myself. Anyhow no one ever changes their mind on here.
It seems clear there was no way she could be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The lads shouting for her to be convicted are empty vessels.
Of that maybe. I’ve already iterated my thoughts on her being behind the wheel in the first place above.
ah the accompanied driver thing i cant see how it is a factor or not,
all i look at here to be honest farmer are facts
1, there are 4 people dead
2. The NCT test- we dont know the reason of failure or lack of a cert therefore we cannot ascertain whether this was a contributing factor in the alleged failure of the vehicle - in the absence of data its a non runner
3 the tyres- again we have seen no data on what the PSI of each tyre was w,r,t, the manufacturers regulations- again this appears to be just a “theory” with no evidence to back up
4 the other theory is that the car underwent some catastrophic failure that caused it to veer across the road- but again nothing has been documented or reported
in the absence of any data from the actual piece of equipment it seems to me reasonable that the behaviour and actions of the driver at the time of the collision are taken into consideration,
again - im assuming the accused will take this to the grave- we cannot rule out that the car was lost control of due to distraction, speed , phone usage and all of these are equally if not more likely as in 2-4 above
i find it incredulous and very wrong the individual was not found guilty, im assuming the points ive outlined above just caused doubt therefore a guilty verdict could not be passed down as it was as likely there was a catastrophic failure of the car as it was that the driver lost control of the car due to absolute negligence.
regarding catastrophic failure it might be worthy if the prosecuter consulted the manufactuer and obtained data of the number of instances recorded previous that such an event happened with that type of car
it is an astonishingly poor decison that sets some very serious precedents
Nonsense. I think the slow puncture thing is a sop myself. Anyhow no one ever changes their mind on here.
100%
it is merely a theory or a possibility
look - i have no interest in the welfare of the accused or otherwise, good luck to her - she got off
i just break down the facts of the case and i cannot see how the driver cannot be held responsible
So you are effectively saying to the girl that she killed her four friends and the only thing she did wrong was something which half the provisional licence drivers in this country do anyway. Also there was no problem at all with her actual driving on the day.
That’s a joke.
you 100% do not know that and her driving must be under scrutiny as a possible model if the cause of death is due to her loosing control of the car
How are you so worthy and sure about this case @farmerinthecity? Not as in whether she should legally be in jail or whether she did something wrong? All women who definitely know are dead or have a vested interest and the witness said the car shot across the road. It’s very unlikely in my mind that she didn’t do something crazy/stupid/certainly reckless/negligent. cat’s eyes??? My fucking hole. I’m not saying she should be in prison. I’d imagine she’s hardly a serial psycho driver but to absolve her of all blame seems extremely lenient.
Give it a rest ffs.The case is done,none of ye were on the jury.Weve all done stupid shit in cars.I really enjoyed that podcast,only difference is when I was younger there were no birds with cars,They were only passengers,I must have done 10k around the diamond in Donegal town in the corolla.Then into the 4 lanterns for a feed before dropping everyone home.
There is nothing in what was presented to the jury in this case which indicates that the girl was responsible for the deaths of her four friends.
You can speculate as much as you want about the driver being on the phone but we simply don’t know that. Also there was a witness who suggested that the movement of the car was ‘unnatural’ - not as a result of a simple lack of concentration. Re the phone - I am sure the cops could find out whether she was on the phone or not at the time of the accident.
@Juhniallio - I am not trying to be the definitive voice on this but I don’t see any evidence which points towards dangerous driving causing death. And that is a fucking massive charge to place over anyone and everything must stack up for it to stick.
The car was mechanically spot on other than this tyre issue which she couldn’t have known about
The fuck?!
Some lads are taking this very badly, the drink drivers aren’t a bit happy
Indeed
Some lads are content to allow deaths on our roads without consequences. Oddly enough the same fella who won’t fix his wife’s car.
i just break down the facts of the case and i cannot see how the driver cannot be held responsible
What facts ?
There is nothing to prove she was responsible for the deaths. Yet again people struggling with the innocent until proven guilty aspect of our courts system.
If you really believe that pile of scutter.
Some lads taking this very very badly, struggling to comprehend that accidents can happen while they’re not allowed to tip around the countryside full of porter
If you really believe that pile of scutter.
he’s either wumming or very naive for his sake ill go with the former
as for the stupid comments about lads "seething someone hasnt been hung for this " or otherwise- well yeah i think with 4 people in the ground and the individual reponsible for driving the thing that ultimatly killed them walks away scot free- yes i think that may cause a few issues especially with the precedent that it sets
Ah but shur she was sorry, so will the next one, and the one after that
Ah but shur she was sorry, so will the next one, and the one after that
And she’ll have to carry the burden of her dead friends who would still be alive if she hadn’t decided the law didn’t apply to her.
No wonder the accountants and auditors are defending her.