Horseshit.
“Oh be careful when your putting the taytos into the machine, young Gerry Murphy has autisim”
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Sounds like a Wexford swimming coach story
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Thats exactly it. I have a psychologist in a womans class. She said if she wanted to, based on a few questions, she could diagnose myself and everyone of the women in the room.
In time neuroscience will crush all this ambiguity and alot of “professionals” will be left red faced. I’d say within 5-6 years
Thats it, just needs to be given boundaries.
I hope to fuck this is a piss take
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Ive taught a few lads with dyspraxia down through the years. All very similar to your lad.
Had a kid this year in sixth year. Very bright and hardworking. Terrible handwriting, poor coordination and would have given up rugby in TY. He was very OCD aswell. Basically ticked every box for dyspraxia.
Some of the lads in his class would try and needle him. They knew what buttons to push to make him flip.
He almost swung for me out of the blue early this year. He was out sick previous day and couple of lads told him i had been taking the piss out of him behind his back.
Probably best thing that happen to him this year. Took him afterschool for a couple of chats and discovered he was up till 3am studying everynight and literally spent all weekend studying without leaving house.
In effect he was wired off his head and on verge of a breakdown. I made out studying timetable for him to follow for all subjects. He struggled to get his head around the fact that sometimes less is more. He thought that the more he studied the better he would do.
I would touch base regularly during the year to make sure he was staying on track. He had some low points as socially he struggled alot and did not have many peers to shoot the breeze with.
He hopes to be a lawyer. If every kid had his apllication, my job would be much easier. I would be proud to have a kid like him.
People who think conditions like these do not exist are very naive.
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Gentleman.
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Conditions exists.
What i am saying is they are grossly over diagnosed and in some cases the diagnosing is being pushed to label someone and box away the problem rather than working at it, just like you have.
You have no idea, well you probably do tbf, how many teachers i have come across or have been told about particularly in secondary school that would baulk at what you just described. I think its the kids now in secondary that are worst affected. Younger parents are wising up a bit and i think on some levels the recession dragged a few peoplr back into line and they are seeing the issues with parents/kids a few years ahead and are changing. Thats a general point, not specific to dyspraxia.
You are to be commended for doing the extra bit though. Thats what is needed by everyone.
Person centred.
I hope you have never tried to convince a parent that a condition their kid has doesn’t exist
I think it should be pointed out to the forum that you were advocating goat’s milk for new born before
Absolutely
@ChocolateMice did a lot of work with students suffering from dyspraxia and aspergers at third level. Biggest problem is not having people like you to follow up on them - mouse was limited to a couple of hours a week with each and the person looking after access/disability was stone useless and these students, who were well able, often fell through the cracks . I know mouse often went out of his way to follow up with these kids but unless the will is there from the top to stay on top of these kids it’s like pissing against the wind. Obviously a lot of these students don’t want the attention and stay quiet instead of asking for help but with the right advice and a little bit of a push they’re as able, if not better, than the average little shit.
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No i wasn’t. Fennel tea you plonker.
And i necer try to convince anyone of anything. If they ask my opinion i’ll give it. Many offer a similar opinion to be honest. But my message is keep an open mind. Try exercise, strength training. If that makes a significant difference great, they were more at the physiological end of the scale. If not try something else. Try finding out what they really like (they often tell me eventually stuff they would not tell parents). Kids are often channelled into stuff their parents like or that their oarents assume they like, and sometimes they don’t. And a load of little things combine to spiral out of control, they lose confidence and so on.
Its not a stretch though to say that physical inabilities and becoming aware of it cannot lead on to struggles in learning etc. We are one organism. Present boxed thinking will be laughed at pretty soon, well it is already really.
I can only talk about the handful of cases i dealt with and the numerous cases clients and teachers tell me about, and maybe i get these cases because parents already realise it may be far more simple than what they thought and not as complicated. Or maybe its because i have had success and i’m good at it.
I can tell you one thing, i’m giving better advice that the chancer OT’s and physios making a killing from this industry on the edges and wasting time and money on the kids who really need it.
You forgot to change people there
You’re correct about over bearing parents… Saw a few cases where kids were pushed into courses they didn’t want to do and kids were on the verge of a mental breakdown… One kid in particular whose parents were teachers demanded that he be a teacher and the kid was almost suicidal from the pressure of it but they wouldn’t listen.
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1.So you can form opinions on medical conditions you have no qualifications to diagnose based on working with kids but I can’t? OK. That seems entirely logical.
- You are now talking about their economic background??? Your question was whether we got informed of every condition or disorder and I said no, obviously. It would be disgraceful if a school told any fella who walked in the door about stuff like that unless they needed to know.
Ya, saw the same mulitple times. Accountant father bullied a lad who wanted to be a Sports Scientist into it. I stead of becoming himself he is now becoming his father, an asshole.
I am not sayingvthat describes autism in any fucking way before the gobshites here start. Its just a reflection on shit parenting. Sometimes this crosses over into subjects like dyspraxia. Often tge oarents feel its about them. Thats a major issue.
Having kids round these ages myself, this is a problem I see each year round now as the cao is coming near. I would like to see the dropout rates for medicine and teaching courses. My experience is parents (usually mothers) deciding what Johnny or mary should do based on what they want to be able to tell other people. The biggest cod of all is these parents taking the kids to “specialist guidance counsellors” during 6th year and paying a few hundred euro for some tests and observations to help back up what they have chosen.
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Sometimes the parent are right guys.
I was saying how can you say that my feeling that diagnosis works someway along economic lines without knowing how many kids exactly and their background.
And i’m not sure dyspraxia is medical and its kinda a funny diagnosis because often its a joint effort with reports from teachers, parents, physios etc.
I am qualified to physically assess kids for movement. The fact that OT’s etc go to ohysuos is just a case of thats what they always did. Modern strength coaches are better placed though.
This thread has gone way off topic, Elaine Thompson is 1/7 for the womens 100M final this evening.Id say she would tear the lad off you!
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