So you get notified about every single disorder/issue/whatever?
I will pick your brain about this tomorrow. My older lad has all the traits but diagnosis no dispraxia. Said to my missus I knew somebody who is skeptical about it and she wants you to meet him!
His cousin was diagnosed with it
No. It’s way more fluid but you’ll always get a heads up about any students you need to know about.
So you have absolutely no idea really. You are just guessing about their economic background.
Which makes your anecdotal evidence far weaker than mine.
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Ask away. Its only my opinion and experience,
It’s 100% genuine, but I agree that people are quick to label. We went through the school system in relation to confirmation of diagnosis. Difficult to explain to a 12 year old why you are bringing him to the CRC to be evaluated. There were a few other issues which needed more evaluation, I had someone tell me he likely had Aspergers or was on the “spectrum” because he was quiet and withdrawn during a 1 hour appointment. My response was he’s a 15 year old boy who listens to Nirvana and other music for angry young men who was hardly going to be singing the whistling gypsy while walking into her office. Two appointments later and Aspergers etc was discounted.
I certainly won’t just take the word of these people, but at the same time if there is anything we could do to make easier on him then we will.
He typed some of his exams in the Junior Cert and he is learning the guitar. The sport will come back as well.
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Ah yes, the “spectrum” can cover a lot. My eldest is somewhere on the spectrum but in the old days he would just have been considered to be a bit quiet.
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there was none of this crap back in the 1970’s or 1980’s, Fintan can be a bit of an oddball sometimes but I don’t need to label him autistic or some shit like that to make excuses him for him, I’d give him a slap a across the back of the head and tell him cop on, he was acting the maggot in Spain last year in certain social occasions in restaurants, no need for it
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Horseshit.
“Oh be careful when your putting the taytos into the machine, young Gerry Murphy has autisim”
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Sounds like a Wexford swimming coach story
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Thats exactly it. I have a psychologist in a womans class. She said if she wanted to, based on a few questions, she could diagnose myself and everyone of the women in the room.
In time neuroscience will crush all this ambiguity and alot of “professionals” will be left red faced. I’d say within 5-6 years
Thats it, just needs to be given boundaries.
I hope to fuck this is a piss take
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Ive taught a few lads with dyspraxia down through the years. All very similar to your lad.
Had a kid this year in sixth year. Very bright and hardworking. Terrible handwriting, poor coordination and would have given up rugby in TY. He was very OCD aswell. Basically ticked every box for dyspraxia.
Some of the lads in his class would try and needle him. They knew what buttons to push to make him flip.
He almost swung for me out of the blue early this year. He was out sick previous day and couple of lads told him i had been taking the piss out of him behind his back.
Probably best thing that happen to him this year. Took him afterschool for a couple of chats and discovered he was up till 3am studying everynight and literally spent all weekend studying without leaving house.
In effect he was wired off his head and on verge of a breakdown. I made out studying timetable for him to follow for all subjects. He struggled to get his head around the fact that sometimes less is more. He thought that the more he studied the better he would do.
I would touch base regularly during the year to make sure he was staying on track. He had some low points as socially he struggled alot and did not have many peers to shoot the breeze with.
He hopes to be a lawyer. If every kid had his apllication, my job would be much easier. I would be proud to have a kid like him.
People who think conditions like these do not exist are very naive.
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Gentleman.
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Conditions exists.
What i am saying is they are grossly over diagnosed and in some cases the diagnosing is being pushed to label someone and box away the problem rather than working at it, just like you have.
You have no idea, well you probably do tbf, how many teachers i have come across or have been told about particularly in secondary school that would baulk at what you just described. I think its the kids now in secondary that are worst affected. Younger parents are wising up a bit and i think on some levels the recession dragged a few peoplr back into line and they are seeing the issues with parents/kids a few years ahead and are changing. Thats a general point, not specific to dyspraxia.
You are to be commended for doing the extra bit though. Thats what is needed by everyone.
Person centred.
I hope you have never tried to convince a parent that a condition their kid has doesn’t exist
I think it should be pointed out to the forum that you were advocating goat’s milk for new born before
Absolutely
@ChocolateMice did a lot of work with students suffering from dyspraxia and aspergers at third level. Biggest problem is not having people like you to follow up on them - mouse was limited to a couple of hours a week with each and the person looking after access/disability was stone useless and these students, who were well able, often fell through the cracks . I know mouse often went out of his way to follow up with these kids but unless the will is there from the top to stay on top of these kids it’s like pissing against the wind. Obviously a lot of these students don’t want the attention and stay quiet instead of asking for help but with the right advice and a little bit of a push they’re as able, if not better, than the average little shit.
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No i wasn’t. Fennel tea you plonker.
And i necer try to convince anyone of anything. If they ask my opinion i’ll give it. Many offer a similar opinion to be honest. But my message is keep an open mind. Try exercise, strength training. If that makes a significant difference great, they were more at the physiological end of the scale. If not try something else. Try finding out what they really like (they often tell me eventually stuff they would not tell parents). Kids are often channelled into stuff their parents like or that their oarents assume they like, and sometimes they don’t. And a load of little things combine to spiral out of control, they lose confidence and so on.
Its not a stretch though to say that physical inabilities and becoming aware of it cannot lead on to struggles in learning etc. We are one organism. Present boxed thinking will be laughed at pretty soon, well it is already really.
I can only talk about the handful of cases i dealt with and the numerous cases clients and teachers tell me about, and maybe i get these cases because parents already realise it may be far more simple than what they thought and not as complicated. Or maybe its because i have had success and i’m good at it.
I can tell you one thing, i’m giving better advice that the chancer OT’s and physios making a killing from this industry on the edges and wasting time and money on the kids who really need it.