There is very luck involved.
What now?
Luck ? You make youre own luck in life. There are a whole host of reasons why one person beats it while others dont. Luck has fook all to do with it. Type of cancer, age, fitness, diet, mentality, stress, genetics, treatment, support, wealth…
exactly.
Type of cancer would be down to luck anyway (or lack of)
Very very odd thing to say
Not at all, your lifestyle can cause certain cancers. There is no " bad luck" about someone who smokes 60 a day and gets lung cancer now is there?
Really have no deia what the fuck KIB is on about here.
Sometimes the fittest people with the best lifestyle, mentality and all the other attributes other have mentioned succumb to serious illness too. Steve Jobs for one.
Others might not have all the boxes ticked like Jobs but survive.
Did Jobs not fight hard enough?
The way I see it if you get serious illness there is generally a % chance of surviving. You can improve your odds perhaps but I dont think ultimately there is much a cancer sufferer can do once they are diagnosed.
Why do those that smoke throughout their lives dont get cancer while others do?
Think jobs is a bad example, think he refused all standard treatments in favour of ‘alternative’ methods
some cancers are inherited through family. age also a factor.
This guy, fucking hell. Best of luck to him.
RISKY surgery to remove a tumour from Jim Stynes’ brain has been successful.
The Melbourne Football Club president is recovering after the gruelling operation at the Alfred Hospital this morning.
His surgeon, Professor Jeffrey Rosenfeld is reportedly estatic with the outcome.
"All in all, looks like a big success,’’ a statement on Stynes’ Facebook page said.
"Sam is by his side as usual. Thanks to everyone for your well wishes and prayers. We all love you big guy.’’
Prof Rosenfeld told the Herald Sun Stynes, 45, continued to surprise medical staff.
"I don’t know the exact number of operations I have carried out on him now, I have lost count,’’ Prof Rosenfeld said.
"Jim is an amazing stayer who just bounces back and a lot of people just don’t bounce back like he does.’’
He said Stynes didn’t hesitate when the option for yet another brain operation was raised late last month.
"He hasn’t been firing on all cylinders at the moment but he was certainly keen to get it done,’’ Prof Rosenfeld said.
"The operation went well. Everything as planned, there were no surprises.’’
He said there was a "good clearance’’ of the last tumour but couldn’t gaurantee it was removed completely.
"I would never say 100 per cent, you can never get that but it looks good.’’
Stynes, 45, has bounced back from a series of similar operations in the last year but those closest to the footy legend had raised concerns ahead of today’s operation because of his considerably weakened state.
Wife Sam was by her husband’s side this morning and has organised a roster of Stynes’ closest footy mates to sit with him after the operation. Melbourne legends Garry Lyon and Anthony McDonald are among those who will sit with Stynes as he recovers.
The surgery follows a grim fortnight for the Stynes family after his oncologist said there was nothing more that could be done.
He had planned a farewell barbecue with his closest friends and family but the event was cancelled when his surgeon phoned with news that his stomach cancer had actually shrunk and surgery to remove the last brain tumour was now an option.
"It was absolutely the last thing we expected,’’ Stynes said earlier this week.
"We were elated, to say the least. It has been a very difficult journey.
"I was sort of written off there not too long ago and now I’ve been given another crack.
"The doctors saw something they didn’t see a few weeks ago, so they got some more medicine that will keep me going for a little bit more.’’
It is not clear if the reduction in the size of the stomach tumour may have been linked to a recent Australia-first medical trial. Stynes was the first person to test an intravenous drug that could offer hope to patients around the country.
Being physically fit does not mean you do not have neurological stresses, in fact it can be a cause of them.
You should pack in commenting now.
There’s a school of thought out there that the level of alkaline & acid in a persons body and diet can have a dramatic effect on their chances of getting cancer or their chances of beating it once diagnosed. A high level of alkaline in their diet is supposedly the best thing for someone who’s diagnosed to increase their chances of beating it. Don’t know enough about it to know if it’s just quackery or more scientific than that.
Lots of people have neurological stresses. Not all get cancer.
Not all those that get cancer die from it. I don’t think surviving cancer is about beating it and
having the necessary fight and mental willpower. Sometimes I reckon it is a % chance if you survive or not.
Thankfully you are not involved in health in anyway…
Yeah, but there’s plenty of cases of people smoking 60 a day and living to be 90 odd years old and stuff. I’d describe that as “lucky” say.
My oul lad had a brain tumour and could have had it all taken out but part of it was on the brainstem so they had to leave part of the tumour in. That’d be bad luck to me too.
Not too comfortable talking about this to you so Pikey, but would it have anything to do with when it was caught? Genuinely have no idea, had it just grown more over time?
Sorry to hear that btw.
Its just the way i think Pike btw, i believe there is a reason for pretty much everything, and everything has a starting point. I don’t have, generally at least, much time for “luck”.
What i think ye are both misunderstanding is that some people are better able to fight disease (without even knowing it) than others. Some people have weaknesses. Weather they live a lifestyle that attacks these weaknesses or not is probably what ye are considering “luck”. But its not like something just appears, there has to be a reason for it.
why? without wanting to sound like those retarted facebook status things, but cancer doesnt pick and chose, nor does a person. people get cancer for no logical reason, why does one person get it over another? you mention smoking, yeah fair enough, its likely someone who smokes is more prone to getting it than someone who doesnt. that isnt luck. but someone who maintains a healthy lifestyle and keeps themselves in good order can be struck down with a form of cancer. even take Stynes. why did he get cancer? it was just bad luck that befell him. I’m not talking about recovery or anything like that here, just the fact that luck does play a part in who gets it and to what extent.
Not at all. Genetically, certain people are more prone to it, others more resistant. It’s not all down to lifestyle you know. There is so much shit put in our foods and in the air people who live a relatively healthy lifestyle can still be affected. If both your parents suffered from it there is a good chance you too will develop it . The luck comes into who your father decided to bone.