No harm, wonder where all the living the dream brigade will go now, can’t wait to hear the excuses. Funny thing is, most of these fellas rode the celtic tiger over in Ireland and just picked up where they left off when they went to Oz, a lot of them now in massive debt in both countries.
Australia is a kip and it’s people are complete assholes, having spent some time there myself. no doubt the ozzie racists will say this downturn is the irish’s fault anyway.
[quote=“Sam Swarek, post: 815956, member: 2293”]No harm, wonder where all the living the dream brigade will go now, can’t wait to hear the excuses. Funny thing is, most of these fellas rode the celtic tiger over in Ireland and just picked up where they left off when they went to Oz, a lot of them now in massive debt in both countries.
Australia is a kip and it’s people are complete assholes, having spent some time there myself. no doubt the ozzie racists will say this downturn is the irish’s fault anyway.[/quote]
You are not far off to be honest. There are posters around Perth saying “more apprenticeships, less 457 visas”. Now there is no problem with the apprentice part, but why isolate a group of people and create a division and hatred for a group of people that more or less have done nothing but support the Australian economy. The visas are a joke. Come here, do jobs we can’t get Aussies to do in places we can’t get Aussies to go for 3-4 years but then you can fuck off. You don’t get any benefits for paying tax (no Medicare etc), you get lower wages even though you may Better experienced and more qualified.
Alot of the big jobs up North WA & QLD now have stipulations where they can only have 5-10% 457’s or non-residents. But Aussies won’t travel up there, so what happens is they only get young lads with no experience on all these jobs and make a fuck of the whole thing.
The hate the unions drum up against foreign workers is scandalous, not to mention the dangerous rhetoric from politicians looking for votes.
There is going to be some fall out here in WA. Ireland 2008-2011 x 100, it will be carnage. The government have let the regular working class out to dry.
Alot of the Celtic Cubs you meet here would disgust you. I’d love to see a few of them get a real does of reality.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 815975, member: 273”]You are not far off to be honest. There are posters around Perth saying “more apprenticeships, less 457 visas”. Now there is no problem with the apprentice part, but why isolate a group of people and create a division and hatred for a group of people that more or less have done nothing but support the Australian economy. The visas are a joke. Come here, do jobs we can’t get Aussies to do in places we can’t get Aussies to go for 3-4 years but then you can fuck off. You don’t get any benefits for paying tax (no Medicare etc), you get lower wages even though you may Better experienced and more qualified.
Alot of the big jobs up North WA & QLD now have stipulations where they can only have 5-10% 457’s or non-residents. But Aussies won’t travel up there, so what happens is they only get young lads with no experience on all these jobs and make a fuck of the whole thing.
The hate the unions drum up against foreign workers is scandalous, not to mention the dangerous rhetoric from politicians looking for votes.
There is going to be some fall out here in WA. Ireland 2008-2011 x 100, it will be carnage. The government have let the regular working class out to dry.
Alot of the Celtic Cubs you meet here would disgust you. I’d love to see a few of them get a real does of reality.[/quote]
I see the very same chaps, squandering money and borrowing to beat the band, but I suppose they can always fuck out of Oz and leave the debt behind them if needs be. The only thing is is where will all these young bucks go next? England, not much happening there, America they wont be able to get visas, Im unsure of the situation in NZ, Canada needs people but are strict on the type of people they leave in there, which would rule out most of the dregs that ended up in Oz. They wont get the dole if they return to Ireland! it will be interesting to see how it pans out in the next 2-3 years.
[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 815913, member: 80”]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23544767
Looks like this shithole is fucked.
Our company is letting people go, no new mining projects
cant say it disappoints me to know that these smug racist pricks are heading towards shit creek[/quote]
Come back to Ireland, mate-we will welcome you with open arms.
Canada’s system is better. They at least try to find out about you as a person. The Aussies are stricter in ways, but it’s just a load of hoopla to make you hand over a load of money. The reality is they don’t give a fuck who they let in, they just want the world to perceive it as hard.
Canada is a far superior country and way of life. Just the weather is hard to take.
You won’t get away with leaving here with a load of debt. They have set up cross credit agency type set up between Ireland and Aus. It will follow you around.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 816027, member: 273”]Canada’s system is better. They at least try to find out about you as a person. The Aussies are stricter in ways, but it’s just a load of hoopla to make you hand over a load of money. The reality is they don’t give a fuck who they let in, they just want the world to perceive it as hard.
Canada is a far superior country and way of life. Just the weather is hard to take.
You won’t get away with leaving here with a load of debt. They have set up cross credit agency type set up between Ireland and Aus. It will follow you around.[/quote]
Well that’s good to hear, is that cross credit agency a recent thing? Ya the Canadians don’t leave just anyone in to the country, the make sure that the person has a skill set that’s needed in Canada and if you even have so much as a drink driving conviction you may forget about getting in there.
Are you in OZ with long Caoimhaoin?
[quote=“Sam Swarek, post: 816033, member: 2293”]Well that’s good to hear, is that cross credit agency a recent thing? Ya the Canadians don’t leave just anyone in to the country, the make sure that the person has a skill set that’s needed in Canada and if you even have so much as a drink driving conviction you may forget about getting in there.
Are you in OZ with long Caoimhaoin?[/quote]
That cross credit thing is there at least as long as I am.
I’m here 2 years 3 months. Was leaving to go home after 10-11 months when I met an Aussie woman and have been stuck here since. Saving to leave next year, but it’s getting real hard to save. May have to do something I swore I wouldn’t, head up north for a few months.
I thought you went out there with a bird?
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 816043, member: 273”]That cross credit thing is there at least as long as I am.
I’m here 2 years 3 months. Was leaving to go home after 10-11 months when I met an Aussie woman and have been stuck here since. Saving to leave next year, but it’s getting real hard to save. May have to do something I swore I wouldn’t, head up north for a few months.[/quote]
Yeah there was no credit check thing when I was there 6/7 years ago, plenty lads I know left debt behind them when they were leaving and it had no repercussions when they came to Ireland.
Will the Aussie woman settle into Ireland or where ye headed for?
why would you think that, you’ve only been here 5 minutes…
He seems like a confident guy who would travel the world with a bird in tow
:oops:
Treaty = Runt.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/30/broome-bomb-indigenous-people-coverage
On Tuesday evening, an explosive was hurled from a car into a small Aboriginal community near Broome, Western Australia, injuring four people. One woman had to be flown to Perth for emergency surgery, and three other people sustained spinal, hearing and eyesight injuries.
A small local news report details that One Mile Aboriginal Community residents witnessed a car driving through the community slowly before pitching something out of the window. Police investigations are still continuing, although it has been suggested that the attack may have been “a prank that’s gone seriously wrong”. I admit to being sceptical this attack was just a “prank” – the target seems quite specific. As investigations are underway, my speculations on what the motives were and who is most likely responsible shall end here.
What I do wish to know, however, is where is the media and Australian community outrage over this event? Where is the coast-to-coast coverage? If I was not hooked into social media, where a number of Indigenous community members were talking about it, I probably would have missed the story due to the lack of coverage. It is telling that the Chinese national press agency Xinhua covered it, yet most of the Australian sources failed to mention it. Last year, when I was told at work that the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union had been the target of a bomb threat, I was able to read about it in a variety of sources. That one turned out to be a hoax; this attack actually injured four people.
Had this been an attack on an Australian city, or on a group of non-Indigenous people, would it have been deemed an event of public importance? As Aboriginal feminist and activist The Koori Woman so eloquently writes: “(I’m) Idly wondering what would happen if I went and casually lobbed an explosive down the whitest street in the village”.
Others queried why, in similar circumstances, labels such as “potential hate crime” or “terrorist attack” are usually used, but in this instance the event is downplayed to a “possible prank”. Is it because the people who have been harmed are not valued by a huge section of the Australian public, and therefore it is felt that people won’t respond to the news? Or is it more insidious than this, and many Australians would make the assumption that the victims of this attack are actually guilty by virtue of their race and their location, and have therefore somehow brought it upon themselves?
It is telling that news from Indigenous communities rarely gets covered unless the government is calling for a “national emergency” to justify deploying defence forces into communities, or if it involves an Aboriginal person who has achieved celebrity status. It is also telling that on the rare occasions when we hear about violence on the communities, it tends to focus on internal community violence and not violence perpetuated upon a community by outsiders.
I have to wonder whether the community members feel they even have the right to report crimes perpetrated against them. In Western Australia, 42% of the prison population is Aboriginal; more than 11 times what the Western Australian prison population parity rate would be. These racialised imprisonment rates cannot possibly foster a faith in the justice system, particularly for small community people. They are vulnerable, and most of the country appear to not be interested.
My thoughts are with the One Mile community and the families that have been affected by this act. I hope that there is justice for these victims as they struggle to make sense of it. And to social media users who refused to let this story about a crime perpetuated against people living on an outback Aboriginal community be ignored, thank you.
I’ve said it so many times, the attitude to the aboriginal people in WA is shocking. It might be hypocritical, but it fills me with hate.
Indigenous people are a joy when you get to know them or they let you in.
Where did you get that Rocko?
That’s fairly shocking albeit not that surprising. Australians attitudes towards them is horrific. We had plenty of people tell us they were evil and to cross the street if we saw them coming etc. Bar the odd few being a bit too drunk they didn’t seem too interested in disturbing anyone.
Although it can feel quite intimidating in places like Cairns late at night where a street has no-one else on it other than you and 4 or 5 aboriginals.
I may have posted this before but a relative of mine worked for a recruitment agency in Perth for years. She’d regularly get calls from their big clients about wanting to hire aboriginal staff to train them and make a good news story out of it. She would regularly set up interviews fir them but not once did a single aboriginal show up for the arranged interview. They were pretty much guaranteed the job. The employer just need to see that they had basic communication skills etc.
Guardian via twitter. There’s a link at the top.
[quote=“Mac, post: 823906, member: 109”]That’s fairly shocking albeit not that surprising. Australians attitudes towards them is horrific. We had plenty of people tell us they were evil and to cross the street if we saw them coming etc. Bar the odd few being a bit too drunk they didn’t seem too interested in disturbing anyone.
Although it can feel quite intimidating in places like Cairns late at night where a street has no-one else on it other than you and 4 or 5 aboriginals.
I may have posted this before but a relative of mine worked for a recruitment agency in Perth for years. She’d regularly get calls from their big clients about wanting to hire aboriginal staff to train them and make a good news story out of it. She would regularly set up interviews fir them but not once did a single aboriginal show up for the arranged interview. They were pretty much guaranteed the job. The employer just need to see that they had basic communication skills etc.[/quote]
Two things about that.
- they don’t trust white people and are pretty shy and would bottle going to interview
- their older family members can be quite negative and jealous and discourage them to pursue any kind of career or steady job as it will make them feel bad about themselves and/or they discourage because of working with whites.
Parents have been a real cause of anguish for alot of young Aboriginals in my limited experience. I think they still remember even worse more violent treatment of Aboriginals and are very bitter. I see it thru football alot. Z
When out in the country I played within ine lad in particular. He was clearly gifted but about 3 stone over weight. But he was bang on and hard working and had a good family and life. But he told me about his younger brother who was a local cop (only aboriginal cop I ever met) who was another 4-5 stone over weight. Anyway apparently the fatter lad was the best thing since sliced pan and had every club in AFL at his door when he was 17,18,19. Apparently his parents would never let him talk to the clubs directly and were asking for massive lump sums of money for him to commit to playing anywhere. 3 years it went on for and eventually they stopped calling. He never played much after.
Had the story verified by others in the club. Things like that are common enough.
They don’t always help themselves, but the whites are always too fast to throw that out there to excuse treating them like shit.
White people (generally, there are exceptions obviously) in WA can’t smile at Indigenous people, it’s something I have really noticed.