Aussie Rules 2013

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[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 771527, member: 273”]By the way, the most participated sports in Australia for kids is swimming.

Soccer, including all social and 5 a sides etc is the most played by adults, slightly ahead of Aussie Rules for men and in or around the same as Netball for girls.

Someone told me the fastest growing sport in over the past couple of years has been Gaelic Football. I have never seen that in data though. The numbers have trebled in WA anyway[/quote]

I started up a Charreria game yesterday.The numbers playing this sport have increased 100% in 1 day

Its now the fastest growing sport

Btw - The numbers playing GGA in Qld remain below 100

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[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 771527, member: 273”]By the way, the most participated sports in Australia for kids is swimming.

Soccer, including all social and 5 a sides etc is the most played by adults, slightly ahead of Aussie Rules for men and in or around the same as Netball for girls.

Someone told me the fastest growing sport in over the past couple of years has been Gaelic Football. I have never seen that in data though. The numbers have trebled in WA anyway[/quote]

a 10 second google search shows you are talking shit - Now please admit you are wrong and that you are a bullshitter
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Products/4177.0~2011-12~Main+Features~Characteristics+of+participation?OpenDocument

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[quote=“FingalRaven, post: 771524, member: 80”]Football has twice the number of players in Ireland than rugby,gga,stickhurling and handball combined

Football clubs are making money in Ireland-75% of GGA county boards are in debt and losing money

Football gets higher TV figures than all other sports

3 times as many football fans went to Poland to see a game than the average championship game[/quote]

First point - False. And there has been a drop in soccer participation.

2nd point - also false and a number picked off top if your head

3rd point - yes, when they watch soccer in another country. The real barometer is how many people go to see the teams actually in Ireland. The secondary GAA games get more than any soccer team get to their primary competition.

They were mostly GAA and rugby people jumping in the bandwagon. The soccer people couldn’t afford to go.

Lets get this straight. You are half Italian. Is that in you rugby living, Lions following Fathers side or your mothers side?

Being Irish, at least in WA, would be one of the most sinned against in terms of racism. Probably only just not quite as bad as the “boat people”, the Sudanese and of course the worst of all, the actual Australians, Aboriginals.

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[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 771534, member: 273”]First point - False. And there has been a drop in soccer participation.

2nd point - also false and a number picked off top if your head

3rd point - yes, when they watch soccer in another country. The real barometer is how many people go to see the teams actually in Ireland. The secondary GAA games get more than any soccer team get to their primary competition.

They were mostly GAA and rugby people jumping in the bandwagon. The soccer people couldn’t afford to go.

Lets get this straight. You are half Italian. Is that in you rugby living, Lions following Fathers side or your mothers side?

Being Irish, at least in WA, would be one of the most sinned against in terms of racism. Probably only just not quite as bad as the “boat people”, the Sudanese and of course the worst of all, the actual Australians, Aboriginals.[/quote]

Its from my mothers side

First point- true - the ESRI reports back this up
Second point true- there was a thread on here about it
Third point- im talking about Irish games

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[quote=“FingalRaven, post: 771533, member: 80”]a 10 second google search shows you are talking shit - Now please admit you are wrong and that you are a bullshitter
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Products/4177.0~2011-12~Main+Features~Characteristics+of+participation?OpenDocument[/quote]

Ya good one, they consider walking around a park twice a week a sport

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[quote=“FingalRaven, post: 771535, member: 80”]Its from my mothers side

First point- true - the ESRI reports back this up
Second point true- there was a thread on here about it
Third point- im talking about Irish games[/quote]

Sure if you don’t know who your mother is you could claim she is from anywhere.

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[quote=“FingalRaven, post: 771535, member: 80”]Its from my mothers side

First point- true - the ESRI reports back this up
Second point true- there was a thread on here about it
Third point- im talking about Irish games[/quote]

It’s our national team you idiot, of course it gets big viewers. It proves nothing. Of course there has been years when the All Irrland football final was most watched as well.

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the evidence proves you are wrong

why dont you admit it

apologise and save face

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Anyway, this weekend showed us that Essedon are not what they promised they were, the real deal. The Eagles are picking off easy teams but are still playing pretty shit.

Freo win a decent game against Collingwood (who seem to be at odds with each other) but to be honest if it had been another better team they went into their shell against they would have lost. Their small forwards are causing havoc. Way way too much being made about the coaching of Ross Lyon and being called a genius and “the best coach never to win a Premiership”. Why a load of horse shit. For those who didn’t see it, he decided not to go give the team a 3/4 time bollicking (this was expected) despite them still being ahead and instead he decided to sit in dug out and organize his team according to where they were losing the momentum. WTF? That’s coaching 101, keep the head, stay positive, you are still winning ffs. It’s like he invented the wheel the way they blow on. Their idea of good coaching is so far off te mark he it’s hilarious. Ross Lyon is a poor mans Jimmy McGuinness, and I’m not messing there.

Hawthorn really destroyed Sydney with a ominous and impressive (considering form and missing players) performance. They surprised me.

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Hawthorn looked good alright Kev, Buddy back with 3 goals and Jared Roughead was outstanding. Having a fit Luke Hodge for them is a huge thing, they lift when he’s there for the entire game. The Swans never really got into the game and were getting killed in the tackle, which is unusual for them. I think Goodes is showing his age and miles on the clock. But its early days yet, I’m not overly worried about them yet. Tommy Walsh was in the squad at least this weekend.

Pearce Hanley again best on ground for the Lions in their loss to West Coast.

Geelong looked the business against Essendon and if I had to pick a favourite right now for the flag based on the season so far, it would be the Cats, with Hawthorn a close second.

Collingwood, will they ever put a few games together? They should be beating Freo (who are a decent side, but not brilliant). Marty Clarke went off with a hamstring injury, seriousness as yet unknown. Replaced by Caolan Mooney, who scored a goal and then was carried off with what looks like a pretty nasty knee injury.

The Crows beat GWS by 135 points yesterday in front of 5000 people in Homebush. Tom Lynch kicking 10 goals (!). Crisis at GWS on a few levels. Setanta didn’t play, had some personal time off, not sure what for, apparently he’ll be back this weekend. Against Hawthorn, so he probably took the wrong weekend off.

Speaking of crises, Gold Coast beat the Dee’s by 60 points.

Great to see North Melbourne and Richmond both winning difficult fixtures.

St Kilda / Carlton tonight, which would normally be a ripper of a game, but should be shite considering how poor both teams are.

The Swans play Freo this Saturday. Expect them to blow Freo off the park.

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Sydney are on the verge of signing 16 year old Darragh Joyce from the Rower. Never thought I’d see them sign a Kilkenny hurler, but I suppose his football training in Good Counsel is what sealed the deal.

Eagles really stuttered to that win over Brisbane. Just about did enough. Melbourne are some pathetic excuse of a joke of a club. Losing by 60 at the G to Gold Coast is embaressing.

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Even a Kilkenny man can play Aussie Rules :smiley:

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Mooney came back on fitzy, he is ok.

Another 2 serious knee injuries this weekend though, it’s pretty fucked.

They are in complete denial. They keep talking about bad luck, but 80% of ACL’s are non-contact, thus the vast majority of this 80% are avoidable.

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[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 771768, member: 273”]Mooney came back on fitzy, he is ok.

Another 2 serious knee injuries this weekend though, it’s pretty fucked.

They are in complete denial. They keep talking about bad luck, but 80% of ACL’s are non-contact, thus the vast majority of this 80% are avoidable.[/quote]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Pardon my ignorance Kev, but what could be done to stop it? I just thought it was one of those things that is unavoidable most of the time? Or are there specific training routines that should be done to strengthen the knee joint? the only thing I really know about it from lads who have suffered it was that they generally tend to be tall and lanky types, so is it to do with muscle mass around the leg area to help things?[/FONT][/SIZE]

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Ya plenty can be done to prevent it. Much of it is from over training. So even when the proper warm ups etc are done if the body is in a state of fatigue then it’s more susceptible. Big men are also in more danger and especially big men that jump alot. If you saw the Tex Walker one it’s a perfect example of it. Over here one if the issues is them expecting 95-110 KG men to do all the endurance running everyone else does. This wears them down significantly. What should be happening, and I know doesn’t happen everywhere, is you need to tech guys and especially people like midfielder’s and ruck men how to control landings etc. there is a plethora of exercises and progressions that can help this. I’m working on stuff right now with our Physio and our big men. Another area that is under trained is deceleration. This is where any size player can have issues. Trying to stop quickly or or turn quickly. You can also train that, but it is often ignored. It’s an issue of force really. A 100 KG guy like Walker coming down off a big jump creats much more than 100Kg of force as he is accelerating down. He needs to know how to control that instinctively on the drop. You can coach that.

FIFA created a universal warm up based initially on research done in women’s soccer. Women are even more susceptible to the injury and the rates were ridiculously high. It has made significant differences. You’ll note professional soccer has very little ACL now. And despite what the Aussies believe because AFL is so “tough” and “hard”, you are more likely to have an ACL in soccer due to alot of jumping and a hell of alot of accelleration/deceleration. The body size of te individual and his personal inability to control his body is the No1 factor in alot of these AFL injuries in my opinion, and the opinion of a few non- Aussie Physio’s and doctors. The medical people throw out the bad luck stuff here to cover their own ass. Tex Walker has been at Adelaide for 3-4 years is it? Then it’s probably their fault.

The issue is, an this is why people often put it down to luck and can’t pin point a reason for it, is the damage is done and weaknesses created in 16-21 age range. The actual collapse then happens 19-23 range. Someone like Colm O Neill is a perfect example. He probably, definitely played too much when young without the proper strength and condition to get thru all those games. Often playing loads of games but having no “Pre-Season”, this no time to get strong, recover, rehab. He was weakening area’s of his body on an on going basis, the knee is one of our weak points. Alot of that was down to greedy coaches wanting their pound of flesh and maybe poor educational help from the S&C/Physio etc. who knows.

Basically alot of the damage is done, especially in GAA, by the time you get a player.

There is absolutely no excuse for the level of it in AFL. For them to play the bad luck story is a cop out. But as you can see from the drugs scandal and from my anecdotal stories and other stuff I have tea etc, the S&C and medical side of things here leaves alot to be desired for such a wealthy sport/nation.

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[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 771923, member: 273”]Ya plenty can be done to prevent it. Much of it is from over training. So even when the proper warm ups etc are done if the body is in a state of fatigue then it’s more susceptible. Big men are also in more danger and especially big men that jump alot. If you saw the Tex Walker one it’s a perfect example of it. Over here one if the issues is them expecting 95-110 KG men to do all the endurance running everyone else does. This wears them down significantly. What should be happening, and I know doesn’t happen everywhere, is you need to tech guys and especially people like midfielder’s and ruck men how to control landings etc. there is a plethora of exercises and progressions that can help this. I’m working on stuff right now with our Physio and our big men. Another area that is under trained is deceleration. This is where any size player can have issues. Trying to stop quickly or or turn quickly. You can also train that, but it is often ignored. It’s an issue of force really. A 100 KG guy like Walker coming down off a big jump creats much more than 100Kg of force as he is accelerating down. He needs to know how to control that instinctively on the drop. You can coach that.

FIFA created a universal warm up based initially on research done in women’s soccer. Women are even more susceptible to the injury and the rates were ridiculously high. It has made significant differences. You’ll note professional soccer has very little ACL now. And despite what the Aussies believe because AFL is so “tough” and “hard”, you are more likely to have an ACL in soccer due to alot of jumping and a hell of alot of accelleration/deceleration. The body size of te individual and his personal inability to control his body is the No1 factor in alot of these AFL injuries in my opinion, and the opinion of a few non- Aussie Physio’s and doctors. The medical people throw out the bad luck stuff here to cover their own ass. Tex Walker has been at Adelaide for 3-4 years is it? Then it’s probably their fault.

The issue is, an this is why people often put it down to luck and can’t pin point a reason for it, is the damage is done and weaknesses created in 16-21 age range. The actual collapse then happens 19-23 range. Someone like Colm O Neill is a perfect example. He probably, definitely played too much when young without the proper strength and condition to get thru all those games. Often playing loads of games but having no “Pre-Season”, this no time to get strong, recover, rehab. He was weakening area’s of his body on an on going basis, the knee is one of our weak points. Alot of that was down to greedy coaches wanting their pound of flesh and maybe poor educational help from the S&C/Physio etc. who knows.

Basically alot of the damage is done, especially in GAA, by the time you get a player.

There is absolutely no excuse for the level of it in AFL. For them to play the bad luck story is a cop out. But as you can see from the drugs scandal and from my anecdotal stories and other stuff I have tea etc, the S&C and medical side of things here leaves alot to be desired for such a wealthy sport/nation.[/quote]
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It should have said “read”.

Dam fingers hitting space bar and all sorts when typing.

Anyone know can you make the buttons bigger on an iPhone?

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I’m astonished TASE made it down that far without trying to bring up anything else

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Im laying off the AFL threads for the time being, The sport has no interest to me

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Firstly I’ll let the AFL know that the ESRI have titled them a “Sport”, they will be trilled. I’ll also let them know you are going to lay off them for a while. They should be relieved.