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Which period, or group of disaffected youth, do you think threw up the best music? It doesnt have to be restricted to a specific decade, it can split them.

An album of hits from the 68-74 period of the Vietnam war would certainly be up there for me-You have the tail end of the hippy movement thrown in and bands like the Beatles, Simon& Garfunkel etc are turning out some great pop songs, but Rock music as you enter the 70s becomes a differnt animal as the drugs get harder and the innocence of the 60s wares offā€¦
The Doors- Road House Blues
Creedence Clearwater- Fortunate Son
Stones- Paint it Black
Moody Blues- Nights in white Satin
Ohio -Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young

R&B, or Motwon, from this period is also top stuff- Marvin Gaye- Whatā€™s going on, The Delfonics- Didnā€™t I blow your Mind, The Temptations- Just my imaginationā€¦

However, after all that- Iā€™d personally put the punk period and just beyond to mid 80s (76-85) as the period I think threw up the best- The Clash,Cure, Stranglers, Jam, Pogues, Specials, Joy Divison, early U2 ,New Order, Talking Heads etc etc The urban anger, resentment and anarchy of this period and the fusion of rock and caribbean music created some wonderful sounds that are ideal for being out of your head on lager. The pop scence from this period is as good as it gets also- I could be here all day but, Tears for Fears- Every body wants to rule the world, Soft Cell- Tainted Love, Men at Work- Down Under, Toto- Afica, A-ha- Take on me, King- Love and Pride, Fine Young Cannibals- Johnny come on home, Michael Jackson (Any song)ā€¦

Of course this period threw up two bands that would go on to create indie music, a genre still evolving today- The Smiths and REM.

In short, the music from 76-85 really floats my boat.

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76-85 is a lot of separate eras I would have thought, punk, new wave, post punk and new romantic, with mod and ska thrown in.

Personally I can find music in all eras and genres that float my both but I have a particular fondness for music from the house/ambient genres of 87/93

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The struggle for Irish Freedom

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[quote=ā€œFagan ODowd, post: 760684, member: 706ā€]

Personally I can find music in all eras and genres that float my both but I have a particular fondness for music from the house/ambient genres of 87/93[/quote]
oh yes - aciiiiieeeeed

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[quote=ā€œFagan ODowd, post: 760684, member: 706ā€]76-85 is a lot of separate eras I would have thought, punk, new wave, post punk and new romantic, with mod and ska thrown in.

Personally I can find music in all eras and genres that float my both but I have a particular fondness for music from the house/ambient genres of 87/93[/quote]

It is indeed a mish mash of different genreā€™s and sounds but they are all inter linked and off set by each other, they are all more or less punk in ideals, just different sounds - But if I was forced to pick a time span this would be the period for me. Iā€™m an angry man who loves nothing better than a few lagers and a bit of a dust up on the dance floor-But I do have bouts of romantic notions in betweenā€¦

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What bands came from out of this period, the Runt?

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None of our generation could ignore the dance sceneā€¦ I was a little young for the house acid house scene of the 80/90s but by late 90s I was chewing the jaw off myself to Techo and Drum and Bass. They were great times but itā€™s not music I listen to now, or doubt I will ever go back to. Great bands or artists are always something youā€™ll return to again and again.

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:clap:

There is no better sound than the sound of a flute belting out a good Irish ballad

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The dance scene influenced conventional rock ā€˜nā€™ roll massively however, especially in Britain. New Order, Madchester, Primal Scream, even up to Oasis.

One negative long-term effect of it however was that it at least contributed in my view to de-politicising music.

Music and popular culture gradually became less and less subversive and have now been pretty much assimilated into establishment thinking.

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A dentists paradise so to speak.

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[quote=ā€œSidney, post: 760700, member: 183ā€]The dance scene influenced conventional rock ā€˜nā€™ roll massively however, especially in Britain. New Order, Madchester, Primal Scream, even up to Oasis.

One negative long-term effect of it however was that it at least contributed in my view to de-politicising music.

Music and popular culture gradually became less and less subversive and have now been pretty much assimilated into establishment thinking.[/quote]

Agreed mateā€¦but the peace it has brought also canā€™t be undervaluedā€¦ I remember seeing fellas from Moyross and Weston shaking hands and sharing vics up in the Theatre Royal listening to Billy Nasty and the likesā€¦ many of these friendships have lasted through to today. Past generations would never have believed it possibleā€¦

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The Clash are my favourite band and the latter period youā€™ve outlined CM would be my preference too, you forgot Bob Marley in that period too. Though as Fagan says there are a few different movements jumbled up in there. Great point from Sidney about the de-politicisation of music. The social commentary of greats like the Clash and Bob Dylan are part of what made them great.

No one mentioning the late 80s to early 90s with the emergence of rap music with Public Enemy and others, that caused quite a stir at the time; and the emergence of grunge after the Pixies set the stage for Nirvana and countless other rock groups to follow with their quiet-loud-quiet motif. And some of the cross fertilisation of hip hop and rock music from the 90s on with Rage Against the Machine doing some very cool stuff.

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The Clash forgot their social commentary as soon as a stadium rock tour inthe States presented itself

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Nirvana were very anti establishment Fagan ODowd.

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Time and again I find myself listening to the classic works from the house/ambient era, like Aphex Twin, the Orb, Underworld, Leftfield, Pete Namlook, Eat Static and then the very many rock/dance crossover creations of the era.

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[quote=ā€œglasagusban, post: 760710, member: 1533ā€]The Clash are my favourite band and the latter period youā€™ve outlined CM would be my preference too, you forgot Bob Marley in that period too. Though as Fagan says there are a few different movements jumbled up in there. Great point from Sidney about the de-politicisation of music. The social commentary of greats like the Clash and Bob Dylan are part of what made them great.

No one mentioning the late 80s to early 90s with the emergence of rap music with Public Enemy and others, that caused quite a stir at the time; and the emergence of grunge after the Pixies set the stage for Nirvana and countless other rock groups to follow with their quiet-loud-quiet motif. And some of the cross fertilisation of hip hop and rock music from the 90s on with Rage Against the Machine doing some very cool stuff.[/quote]

The Clash are magnificent, one of my favourites also, they are a fusion of all the sounds from this period and show that punk is an expression rather than a sound.

Rap offered so much but what it largely became, rapping about bitches and guns, really puts me off it. There are some great rap/hip hop albums but the nigger this and nigger that put me off it. But yeah, the early stuff is great, going back to grand master flash, De la sol, slick ric etc

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Trueā€¦ Thatā€™s when it started to fall apart for them and Joe began to bug out.

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[quote=ā€œChocolateMice, post: 760719, member: 168ā€]The Clash are magnificent, one of my favourites also, they are a fusion of all the sounds from this period and show that punk is an expression rather than a sound.

Rap offered so much but what it largely became, rapping about bitches and guns, really puts me off it. There are some great rap/hip hop albums but the nigger this and nigger that put me off it. But yeah, the early stuff is great, going back to grand master flash, De la sol, slick ric etc[/quote]
It did but thatā€™s all the crap for kids to listen to on spin fm, thereā€™s some great stuff out there still. Saul Williams is one of my favourites he is a magnificent lyricist. The roots, mos def and q-tip are still doing cool stuff too. I am rubbish at downloading stuff as I am technologically retarded and so I am not very up to date with music any more.

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The early to mid 70s fascinated me particularly what was going on in Germany at the time. Can, Faust, Neu!, Kraftwerk, Amon Duhl II, Sensorama, Harmonium. Then you had the English such as Brian Eno, Pink Floyd and Bowie. The US had solo stuff from the likes of Cale and Reed.

The early to mid 80s would be another golden time mainly cos you had two of the greatest bands ever at the peak of their power - REM and the Smiths.

Fascinated by the Bristol scene from the early to mid 90s with Massive Attackā€™s Blue Lines, Portisheadā€™s Dummy and Trickyā€™s Maxinquaye.

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All of these ā€œscenesā€ that have been mentioned produced some tremendous music. But it must be two decades since there was a music ā€œsceneā€ that produced important, challenging music.

Thatā€™s sad.