Oratorio of the early to mid 18th century.
[quote=“farmerinthecity, post: 760724, member: 24”]
The early to mid 80s would be another golden time mainly cos you had two of the greatest bands ever at the peak of their power - REM and the Smiths.[/quote]
I may be hanged for this but I never liked the Smiths, always found Morrissey very off-putting.
[/quote]Fascinated by the Bristol scene from the early to mid 90s with Massive Attack’s Blue Lines, Portishead’s Dummy and Tricky’s Maxinquaye.[/quote]
Those were three three ridiculously good albums to come from a small area in a short space of time.
[quote=“Sidney, post: 760725, member: 183”]All of these “scenes” that have been mentioned produced some tremendous music. But it must be two decades since there was a music “scene” that produced important, challenging music.
That’s sad.[/quote]
Yeah- I asked that question recently- Was grunge the last great scene to emerge? Dance was almost concurrent to it but did go mainstream a bit earlier… The 90s used to be great times for the Mettlalers vs Ravers tho… There used to be war in Limerick with them going at it until the mettalers dropped a few pills and everybody was in love.
Jurrasic 5 aint bad either
[quote=“ChocolateMice, post: 760729, member: 168”]
Was grunge the last great scene to emerge?[/quote]
Early to mid 90s NY Hip-Hop.
Some great tunes from then alright.
My two favs would be the 67-73 era with Dylan, The Doors, CCR etc and the Grunge era circa early to mid 90’s. I lived that and I suppose it has alot of memories, but I was a troubled teenager and Nirvana & Pearl Jam suited my mood at the time. Have slipped away from Nirvana over time, but Eddie Veddar will go down as one of the grey song writers and is still at it, a freakish voice.
But like Fagan, I like all types of music from different era’s. The overall originality and wider spectrum of sheer brilliance would make the 67-73 era king IMO. Remember you could throw Luke Kelly and Rodriguez into that era also.
Farmer - what do you make of Sixto Rodriguez?
[quote=“Sidney, post: 760725, member: 183”]All of these “scenes” that have been mentioned produced some tremendous music. But it must be two decades since there was a music “scene” that produced important, challenging music.
That’s sad.[/quote]
You should listen ti the Aussies go on about their great music movement and what they are bringing to the world now. It’s utter shite most of it and just bang on copies of old stuff. One rapper has just completely copied an Eminem song and just moved around the words.
The Internet has been great for the ordinary folk interns of access to music, but it has hammered alot of originality.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 760740, member: 273”]You should listen ti the Aussies go on about their great music movement and what they are bringing to the world now. It’s utter shite most of it and just bang on copies of old stuff. One rapper has just completely copied an Eminem song and just moved around the words.
The Internet has been great for the ordinary folk interns of access to music, but it has hammered alot of originality.[/quote]
It has also hammered the concept of the “scene” as everything is so dispersed. Good music is out there but it’s more difficult to find.
While the dance scene in the late 80s / early 90s produced some magnificent music it embraced a non-politically engaged, hedonistic culture. Young people in western societies have become more depoliticised as that hedonistic, instant gratification, consumer culture has taken hold. The de-politicisation of music is just a reflection of that.
[quote=“glasagusban, post: 760727, member: 1533”]I may be hanged for this but I never liked the Smiths, always found Morrissey very off-putting.
[/quote]Fascinated by the Bristol scene from the early to mid 90s with Massive Attack’s Blue Lines, Portishead’s Dummy and Tricky’s Maxinquaye.[/quote]
Those were three three ridiculously good albums to come from a small area in a short space of time.[/quote]
The Sundays “Reading, Writing and Arithmetic” too. Another classic Bristol album.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 760739, member: 273”]Some great tunes from then alright.
My two favs would be the 67-73 era with Dylan, The Doors, CCR etc and the Grunge era circa early to mid 90’s. I lived that and I suppose it has alot of memories, but I was a troubled teenager and Nirvana & Pearl Jam suited my mood at the time. Have slipped away from Nirvana over time, but Eddie Veddar will go down as one of the grey song writers and is still at it, a freakish voice.
But like Fagan, I like all types of music from different era’s. The overall originality and wider spectrum of sheer brilliance would make the 67-73 era king IMO. Remember you could throw Luke Kelly and Rodriguez into that era also.
Farmer - what do you make of Sixto Rodriguez?[/quote]
Good Kev. I posted one of his songs, Crucify Your Mind, in Smashing Tunes a while back. My brother bought the Cold Fact album a couple of years back. It’s a quality album - reminded me a lot of Dylan.
The Aussies have contributed to the music scene down the years with Nick Cave and the Go Betweens/Grant McLennan. Don’t know what the scene is like now but by the sounds of things it doesn’t sound great.
Music scenes just evolved around the emerging drugs scene of the time. It’s new drugs that are needed, not new music.
[quote=“farmerinthecity, post: 760758, member: 24”]
The Aussies have contributed to the music scene down the years with Nick Cave and the Go Betweens/Grant McLennan. Don’t know what the scene is like now but by the sounds of things it doesn’t sound great.[/quote]
Don’t forget the seminal Ramsay Street scene which produced some classic pop records by Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Stefan Dennis, Craig McLachlan, Gayle and Gillian, Natalie Imbruglia, Holly Valance and the incomparable Natalie Bassingthwaite.
Much like almost every other artistic pursuit, Australians just don’t get music-INXS and AC/DC were an aberration.
With the exception (as pointed out above) of the Go Betweens.
Crowded House (not really Australian), Eric Bogle (not really Australian), Bee Gees (not really Australian), Yothu Yindi (not really Australian in the John Howard sense).
Was there not as many kiwis and yanks in Crowded House as Ozzies? Bee Gees are British. For a nation of 20 million people that’s still pretty poor in fairness.
I am not sure how someone can be expected to be taken seriously on matters musical and Australian when they fail to mention Sherbet and John Paul Young. Not to mention Rose Tattoo, Midnight Oil, Men at Work and the Hoodoo Gurus.
Australia did produce the excellent Paul Kelly, though he would be an exception amongst dross.
[quote=“Sidney, post: 760743, member: 183”]It has also hammered the concept of the “scene” as everything is so dispersed. Good music is out there but it’s more difficult to find.
While the dance scene in the late 80s / early 90s produced some magnificent music it embraced a non-politically engaged, hedonistic culture. Young people in western societies have become more depoliticised as that hedonistic, instant gratification, consumer culture has taken hold. The de-politicisation of music is just a reflection of that.[/quote]
the lack of a ‘here’s David Cameron throw him up and catch him’ type playground chant is just another example of this.
Theres also fewer huge stadium filler type bands these days. Very few bands that emerged in the last ten years could fill slane or knebworth or one of those big venues.