Banter or Racism

Bandage · February 19, 2019, 10:19pm

I know who he was. Sure haven’t I been posting about him today.

TheUlteriorMotive · February 19, 2019, 11:03pm

John Wayne in a bit of bother now over a 1971 Playboy interview.

Enrique · February 20, 2019, 5:47am

Clearly Trump’s malign influence.

anon61878697 · February 20, 2019, 7:23am

What did he say?

Juhniallio · February 20, 2019, 8:24am

Loads of stuff. A lot of it reads worse than it prpbably was. Stuff like’ i dont think a black man should get a job he’s not qualified for’… and ‘slavery was terrible but im not gonna feel sorry for somethings my forefathers did’…
Worst bit is prrobably about blacks having to educate themselves and not being ready for responsibility.
Basically a fella who got everything wondering why everyone cant work hard and get rich cos he did.

anon61878697 · February 20, 2019, 8:25am

In the current environment I doubt he’ll get a movie again.

Fran · February 20, 2019, 8:34am

It was nearly 50 years ffs sake

TheUlteriorMotive · February 20, 2019, 8:48am

anon61878697 · February 20, 2019, 8:50am

Yeah but what controversial points did he make?

TheUlteriorMotive · February 20, 2019, 8:51am

i always said I only read Playboy for the interviews

Fagan_ODowd · February 20, 2019, 9:03am

Sure that’s the way it was in those days.

anon61878697 · February 20, 2019, 9:07am

I’m not sure what the lads were expecting when ‘reading’ their back catalogue of playboy and stumbled across an interview from John Wayne ( a god fearing white American male born in 1907 ) from the 1970s

anon61878697 · February 20, 2019, 9:09am

A white supremacist

Fagan_ODowd · February 20, 2019, 9:11am

Did he not say he believed in white supremacy?

Gman · February 20, 2019, 9:14am

he couldnt have been more clear about it!

PLAYBOY: Angela Davis claims that those who would revoke her teaching credentials
on ideological grounds are actually discriminating against her because she’s black. Do
you think there’s any truth in that?
WAYNE: With a lot of blacks, there’s quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent,
and possibly rightfully so. But we can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn
everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the
blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t believe in giving authority and
positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.
PLAYBOY: Are you equipped to judge which blacks are irresponsible and which of their
leaders inexperienced?
WAYNE: It’s not my judgment. The academic community has developed certain tests
that determine whether the blacks are sufficiently equipped scholastically. But some
blacks have tried to force the issue and enter college when they haven’t passed the tests
and don’t have the requisite background.
PLAYBOY: How do they get that background?
WAYNE: By going to school. I don’t know why people insist that blacks have been
forbidden their right to go to school. They were allowed in public schools wherever I’ve
been. Even if they don’t have the proper credentials for college, there are courses to help
them become eligible. But if they aren’t academically ready for that step, I don’t think
they should be allowed in. Otherwise, the academic society is brought down to the lowest
common denominator.

but as you already said, what would one expect with a man who was part of that social class born in 1907 and died before most of us here were even born.

anon61878697 · February 20, 2019, 9:14am

I dont know - i’m waiting for @TheUlteriorMotive to put up the full interview — As far as I can tell he just said black folk were not ready to control their own affairs ----Looking at rap culture today, he wasnt far off in fairness to him. John was clearly a victim of the system as much as anyone else.

Gman · February 20, 2019, 9:17am

https://pages.shanti.virginia.edu/Wild_Wild_Cold_War/files/2011/11/John_Wayne_Playboy_Int2.pdf

some of it is actually hilarious if it wasnt true.

I hope we dont have any social justice warrier types on here who identify as being black who might get offended by what this dead man said nearly 50 years ago.

Julio_Geordio · February 20, 2019, 9:20am

Who’s pulling out their playboys from 50 years ago and actually reading the articles?

Ashman · February 20, 2019, 9:22am

Probably some aul codger passed away recently and the family were rumbling through his stuff .

Was there any “ celebrity skin “ on that episode ?

anon78624367 · February 20, 2019, 9:22am

snowflakes.

The World is gone so PC now they’ve to go back to old editions of porn mags and songs written by Anglo-Irish alcoholics to get offended