Reading The Sun I’d say, which is surprising for a Liverpool fan
alright mate. Hope all well with you and yours.
:rolleyes:
glad to hear it, belated congrats on the latest addition to the family
Christ Foley has surpassed himself (and KIB) here with that level of ignorance.
Disgusts me that the right honourable gent Joey Barton has somehow been dragged into this 
The story of Bobby Sands is truly inspirational in my view, regardless of ones beliefs or politics. The sacrifice of ones life for ones principles is something very few people have the courage to follow through. Personally I think strikes of any type are can be destined to failure where there wil be a public winner and loser, practicality and fairness are secondary to pride. Thatcher bowing to Sands in 81 would have angered a huge population in the UK. A victory in the short term may be paid for in the long term.
I think it is very interesting to walk around Belfast now in the affected areas, Loyalist murals celebrate famous bloody victories, Republican murals internationalize the struggle (Cuba, Palestine, Basque etc) which is reflected in the widespread outrage at Sands death worldwide. This was an extremely smart move from a propaganda perspective.
So hard to believe this could have happened only 30 years ago
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Now we can close this thread (with TDB permission) 
TASE, you’re going to have to applaud this one.
I wanted it closed long ago Kev.
If ever there was an argument to sum up your utter stupidity this is it. It is the argument of a simpleton frankly, even the attempted dig at my whereabouts is idiotic. You hadnt the intelligence to challenge the propaganda spoonfed to you at 4 as is still the case.
There is no point poking fun at you anymore . It lost it’s entertainment value long ago.
It was a noble effort DB, i’m all for “debate” and a bit of disagreement and banter, but somethings can be just left off.
Sands gave his life for propaganda purposes - I’d agree with that. It’s still a waste of a life.
The republican rhetoric is pointless if the intention was always a negotiated settlement as the barstool republicans are saying here.
I really don’t understand what propaganda i’m supposed to have swallowed. They didn’t make up that he died, he isn’t living the life of Reilly over in Boston or somewhere. I have quite possibly read more about this man and that time than any other thing in my whole life, and it is very very clear to me you are just a wum and haven’t a notion what you are talking about. Because if you did have an idea, you would not be spouting such shite about him. Whatever about the rights and wrongs of the IRA over the years and everything else, this is a completely unique incident/period of time in our history, completely unique. And he changed the course of history, for the better may i add.
You utter utter pleb of a boy. Its so obvious you had nobody to converse with properly when you were growing up.
Not sure what Foley is getting at but your point that the IRA fought (and murdered 600 civilians) for civil rights is outlandish and easily the most ignorant point here.
The intention of the IRA to fight for a negotiated settlement is also bullshit. That was the outcome but they wanted a 32 county republic regardless of the horrific civil war in Norn Iron.
Some were reading Ann and Barry at age four. Kev was reading about the hunger strikes. Great point again mate.
Sands changed nothing. He was a sacrificial lamb. He was hardly an inspiration to put away the guns and seek a peaceful settlement
As the Father of the Board I request the closure of this thread. It’s going around in circles now.
If you dont have any new points to make you dont need to post anyway. Barstool republicanism is such a meaningless cliché that it misses whatever cuttin effect you were aiming for.
Only somebody with no knowledge of national or international history could possibly argue that the concept of a negotiated settlement was contrary to the aims of the IRA (or virtually any army). We can never know whether Sands would support the current prices but equally it’s a bizarre leap to conclude otherwise and undermines the whole argument. Next we’ll be hearing that the ANC sold out by accepting peace.
Next we’ll be hearing that the ANC sold out by accepting peace.
They fucking did too the cunts
Barstool republican sums up a lot of the Glasgow Celtic sentiment here perfectly imo.
The IRA wouldn’t have recruited too many if their aim was a negotiated settlement. You are rewriting history. It was the way it panned out but ultimately the armed campaign for a united Ireland was a failure. 600 civilians died for the IRA to realize the pen was mightier than the sword. It was an awful price to pay.
Another contradiction.