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I guess they thought that if they somehow actually won, Cameron would have to deal with it. Which wouldn’t be entirely unjust considering that his recklessness created the situation.

Who would want to deal with it though? The markets and sterling are in a precarious state. Scottish independence is back on the table and is an even bigger threat this time. The border situation in Ireland is a time bomb. Farage is admitting that a recession is inevitable and there are trade agreements to be renegotiated with practically the entire world. And that’s before the tedious task of replacing EU law in large number of areas with countless organised stakeholders is to be tackled.

It’s a nightmarish situation. A quagmire of epic proportions awaits those who stake their careers on it.

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Cameron has said “it’s your mess, you deal with it.” And it’s hard to blame him, really.

i’m sure most have seen this on social media, in case any haven’t it’s starting to make sense, and be plagiarised by Alaistair Campbell and others, as the days goes on

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So a few racists represent 17M people? That’s essentially the same (and equally moronic) as saying Omar Mateen represents all Muslims.

If I lived there, I don’t mate.

You were the one calling for Islam to be banned six months ago.

The entire campaign was built on anti-migrant sentiment. So yes, it’s intimately connected to the Leave movement and is certainly representative.

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You said you “haven’t backed anyone in the Brexit campaign”, which I’ve comprehensively demolished, through your own words.

Surely, dense and all as you are, you can see the distinction between being intolerant of an ideology and being intolerant of those that believe it? Or maybe you can’t, sadly.

I could only back something if I had some influence on the outcome, voting in this case. Unless you think the inhabitants of the UK are glued to TFK and desperate to hear our guidance.

You are a bit dim here Sidney. Can you not join the dots on Unite and many of the other Unions throwing their support behind Corbyn over Andy Burnham (he was the other leading candidate Sidney, I’ll save you the Google) late on.

One could guess that maybe Watson saw that Corbyn was going to be such an unelectable and toxic leader that inevitably he would have to go, leaving Watson in a nice position to take the position. There has always been the suspicion though that Unite swung to get revenge over the Labour hierarchy, who they believed stiched up McCloskey and Watson in 2013 over parliamentary selections.

Look, mate, try and stick to your opinions rather than obfuscating. If you’re not articulate enough to voice your actual opinions accurately, it’s not my problem.

I’m not from Humberside, nor am I shitting it.

I may be wrong but I thought the whole campaign was based on restoring UK sovereignty, and making decisions impacting the UK in the UK and not in Brussels. Immigration policy is obviously one of those decisions, but hardly the only one.

If you were to be consistent you’d apply this to the discussions on the US Presidential election, given that I don’t have a vote. Somehow, I don’t think you’ll do that.

And you certainly haven’t up to now.

The UK is a sovereign nation, much as some people might not like to believe that.

Those people generally believe a lot of wacky stuff.

It is a bit rich of people who voted against Lisbon and Nice criticising the Brits. The misinformation campaign was the same and the Irish as well as Brits were giving a “fuck you” to the political establishment when they thought there were no consequences. Lisbon for example, was a totally nonsense referendum which did not need to happen. Misinformation ruled the day and people thought it was an easy one to stick their fingers up to the government with few consequences.

The Brits are going to realise that there is going to be serious consequences in their pockets for voting this way soon enough though.

I know who Andy Burnham is, pal, and I bet I knew who he is a long time before you.

Can you please answer the question as to how Tom Watson had anything to do wityh Corbyn being elected, because you still haven’t even begun to address the question, nor do I suspect you will do so.

Members of the EU are no more sovereign than Texas is in the US. You would think someone in Ireland would understand that. Would a sovereign nation accept the terms of the bank bailout in 2008? or was it done under threat from the ECB? If the latter, then not a sovereign nation, sorry.

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