BREXIT thread

What deal are they hoping for that they don’t already have

An alternative one of course. They just don’t know who with, for what or when yet. But an alternative one.

Carmel hanna (sdlp) is a bit of a one trick pony. She appears on radio ulster every day and asks ‘what deal?’.
I haven’t heard an answer yet.

But is the rest of the world committed to the fight against climate change? The US has decreased emissions for the past decade (as has the EU), the 2017 level was back to the levels of the early 90s. Even with all Trump’s pro oil industry rhetoric, emissions declined again in 2017, haven’t seen 2018 data yet. China, even though it signed the Paris accord, is now twice the US level and still increasing, India is also increasing rapidly. The fundamental issue with human caused climate change is population and that’s not going to decrease anytime soon. On a per capita basis the US is well below the Middle East, and below Australia (25% above the US, you wouldn’t think so listening to our Australian climate change expert).

It doesn’t make a fuck bit of difference if the US continues to decline but the ROW continues to increase and overall emissions increase.

Bleached chicken for some and miniature union jacks for everyone

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The cunts will fly the stars and stripes and be happy to do so. Ireland should join as well, it would be a tremendous union of like minded individuals.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2019/01/08/us-carbon-emissions-2018

US emissions are rising steeply.
So who will lead? If Chinese and Indian and whoever’s emissions are rising, why is that a reason to do nothing?
Apart from the obvious moral imperative, there will be catastrophic economic consequences if we all continue on the path we are currently on. The economic opportunities meanwhile arr enormous, but we continue to allow fossil fuel companies to rule our economies and countries.

You obviously haven’t read anything I’ve said about Australia and emissions.
We"re a complete disgrace
But change is coming.
Agree with you that population is key here and has to be addressed immediately. Like everything else.

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Global emissions are rising steeply, and accelerating. It was a particularly cold winter in the US, and the US economy grew strongly in 2018, which is the largest factor, manufacturing, travel, transport all up north of 5%. This at a time when coal plants continued to close (coal use in the US is down 40%) and lots of investment in solar and electric cars. Meanwhile China is building loads of coal powered plants, not just in China but in Africa, and India trying to get electricity to another 300 million people, the population of the US.

I agree the issue has to be taken more seriously, but the only real impact comes from alternative energy sources, as barring a large scale pandemic or asteroid collision demand is not going to decrease. The reality is most countries, especially the large ones, are not meeting their Paris accord goals, so it was another exercise in politicians patting themselves on the back.

It’s basically a race to replace fossil fuels with alternative energy, a race we are currently losing. It needs massive investment in solar and wind power generation, and nuclear fusion which is probably at least 25 years off.

Where has the Brexit thread gone?

Hunt says UK may need to delay exit from EU
http://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2019/0131/1026634-brexit-uk/

Er not really.

Well well, look who’s running scared now. Wanker. If the eu holds the line as it should, the tories will buckle, implode, or both, and even if there’s a crash out, a new govt will be back pleading for an arrangement as close to a soft brexit as possible. I live here, and will feel the effects, but fuck them.

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This is the lad who was patting himself o. The back for meeting a war criminal earlier in the week.

As @Tassotti said yesterday the tories are playing a game of chicken to get the EU to blink first. All I think its doing is pissing everyone off.

Why aren’t Jeremy Corbyn’s pro‑Brexit mates punished for rebelling?

On these Brexit amendments 14 MPs voted against Labour and many more, including shadow ministers, abstained. But the silence since then from the leader’s office seems to suggest that there is no prospect of action against those who chose to defy Jeremy’s authority.

Jeremy Corbyn has never previously shied away from taking firm action against frontbenchers who defied his leadership. Owen Smith was sacked in March for calling for a People’s Vote on Brexit, while a number of shadow ministers who couldn’t support Labour’s position on Article 50 chose to resign their frontbench roles in the face of the threats of action by the whips.

When you look at the carry on of their MEPs in parliament and the Europeans reaction to it you realize that most Europeans can’t wait to be rid of the ignorant boorish cunts.

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When it comes right down to the line I think it is more likely that they will have a majority in parliament to either accept the deal, or delay for an election or new referendum, rather than allow no deal.

And that’s a nice one but I don’t do Twitter.

But what is the deal now? Does anybody know?

It’s the one that parliament rejected overwhelmingly. It’s still the same.