BREXIT thread

This is a line constantly thrown out by advocates of torture. But when challenged to cite any instance of this they are unable to do so. Torture is not morally justified under any circumstances.

I’d go further than that and state categorically that this type of activity is typical of the US ALL the time (when has the US not been at war over the last 50 years one way or another?). Towards the end of 2014 the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report and even though only the executive summary was declassified it is a damning indictment of the CIA and it’s methods. Methods which for 50 years they have exported to dictatorial regimes around the world.

And by the way, Abu Ghraib was not alone. The US has helped establish & train the interrogators and take part in interrogations in dozens of “black sites” that stretch from Thailand to Poland.

Not only that, an enquiry into Abu Ghraib concluded that the US had without doubt committed war crimes and asked if thos who had ordered the use of torture would be held accountable. The answer to that is, of course, “No”, because it was ordered and authorised at the highest levels.

The US is no different from any empire which preceeded it. It will use any methods, including torture and assassination to maintain it’s authority. You should wake up and realise that.

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Possibly the dumbest statement I’ve seen on here, and one that could only be made by someone with zero experience of dealing with employment issues in different EU countries. It’s telling that the few likes you got are from lads who wouldn’t know anything about working in Ireland let alone anywhere else.

“These laws often operate differently in different member states as most EU employment law is created at EU level and the brought into national law by each member state”. National labor laws are all over the shop in the EU, if you take one example, terminating an employee is completely different from country to country, it is relatively easy to do so in the UK and Ireland compared to a France for example where it is next to impossible.

Is there a 35 hour work week across the EU as there is in France? a standard minimum wage across the EU? Do other countries have the insane law that Italy has where you cannot be fired for poor performance?
Go through the list in the attacked article, or maybe talk to someone with some actual experience in the area.

There are many reasons why multinationals favor the UK and Ireland over continental Europe, one of the major ones is employment law. The UK and Ireland are the closest by far to the US in this regard. Why do you think companies in France are moving to short term contracts rather than long term? Because even French companies operating in France are fed up of national employment laws.

In short, you are talking through your ass, but nothing new there.

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Italy officially in recession, the EU have more to worry about than Brexit.

This is the sort of stuff @anon7035031 thinks is just fine.

Thanks to your buddy Salvini, the Trump of Italy.

The one thing that unites all far right crackpots is utter incompetence.

Obviously not every regulation is the same, but for example, all the UK employment equality legislation derives from EU law. The majority of employment related law in the UK would derive from EU law. Britain does not have more in common with the US in terms of regulation. You are patently working to say that. It’s an idiot think to say. The UK is part of the single market.

Anything about the fact that you don’t understand the difference between a customs union and an FTA? Of course not.

You don’t know what you are talking about.

You are a Boris Johnson.

A buffoon.

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Backtrack.

It’s amazing how often you are shown up to be completely wrong and talking through your hole, and yet you come back for more.

You’re a fool. Laughable.

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You haven’t proven anything, other than making a show of yourself once again. You said the UK’s labor laws are the exact same as the EU. They are not, and anyone with any knowledge of this area would tell you the same. Take your beating and fuck off.

Avoiding again.

UK law aligns with the single market on recruitment, terms and conditions, IR, working time, leave, maternity rights, healh and safety, termination of employment, to name just a few Directives. Countries, naturally, can diverge from those directives to legislate for better than the minimum standards.

To say the UK has more in common with the US in terms of regulation is something that only a fool would say.

It’s even more stupid than not knowing the difference between an FTA and a customs union because it’s so obvious.

You’re a buffoon.

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I have to say TNH

So, they’re not “exactly” the same. Thanks, I’ll accept your concession.
Countries diverge from EU directives because their labor laws were in effect long before the EU, not the other way round, you dumb cunt.

But keep deflecting to my NAFTA comment, which anyone less anal than you (that would be everyone) would clearly see was a joke.

The UK and Ireland (for the most part) are closer than maninland Europe, but are are still closer to Europe themselves. That’s just the way it is.

you said they have more in common with the US than EU.

Now you’re arguing over which of you is more wrong.

I’ll give you a hint, it isn’t Glas

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Have to bring in Sidney to sort this out.

fixed

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“Far more in common with the US than the EU”
It’s a bit like the argument regarding Declan Hannon, interpretation. I’m not saying the UK is the same as the US, but it is a damn site more similar than France for example.

It is far easier for US corporations to deal with employment issues in the UK and Ireland than it is continental Europe, in particular France, Italy, etc. That’s simply a fact, not opinion.

The US at will law differentiates it from everywhere pal. The cunts are out on their own

That’s because of the Roman v common law systems and the languages spoken you complete fool.

The UK is part of the single market. It’s regulations are derived from or align with Europe. To say it has more in common with the US is nonsensical.

You’re like Boris Johnson spouting away shite all day.

@glasagusban is giving @anon7035031 some pasting here.

It’s like the 2002 All-Ireland under 21 hurling final.

@anon7035031 must surely be close to hanging up his keyboard for good at this stage.

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Only an idiot who works in the public sector could sprout such rubbish. Language ffs, it’s regarded as essentially compulsory to speak English in the business world throughout western Europe. How many companies have you worked for that did business in the UK and the rest of the EU? Speak to someone to has, and ask them what it’s like for example to terminate an employee for cause in France versus the UK.

Also, reflect on the fact that the lad backing you up here has never worked a day in his life.