He has a pain in the crack of his arse from sitting on the fence
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I’d say he’ll be absolutely devastated at your extremely well thought through assessment
Just like he’s thrilled that you endorse him
One of the big problems right-wingers have is they always resort to pathetic name calling
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In fairness he has still has a long way to go to catch up to Baron Callaghan of Cardiff who sent the British army into NI, bankrupted the UK and had to go to the IMF for a bailout, and oversaw the winter of discontent which saw Labour being banished to the wilderness for 18 years.
Corbyn of course hasn’t had his chance yet to fuck things up on a similar scale.
Plus hes doing his best to make sure he doesnt get that chance
Give him a chance. What’s interesting here is the labour party, namely all the mps who are clearly anti corbyn. No issue with cleansing of dissent, no issue with anti semitism. No issue with trying to abolish any moderate voice. I wonder if they will finally react when it finally dawns upon them that the UK simply will not elect a hard left Labour party with corbyn at the helm.
He wont get the chance flatty. Boris will be sending him a thank you card after the election for putting the tories back in power
The British Army were originally welcomed into NI by the CNR community as protectors
That’s an inconvenient fact that you leave out
I presume you think the CNR community in 1969 were traitors
The Tories brought the three day week to Britain
Britain’s greatest achievements and greatest prosperity since the war was always under a Labour government
I know. Boris is quietly seething. Everything he did worked, until corbyn sat on the fence about a GE.
With a moderate in charge of labour, the tories would be gone for two or three terms I suspect.
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Correct but Corbyn has split labour by sitting in the fence re brexit. Corbyn could well be leader of the third biggest party in parliament after the GE.
“Moderate” must be the most misused word in politics, it’s almost Orwellian
Corbyn has been the subject of constant threats and constant attempts to oust him since day 1
So who is trying to crush dissent - the dissent of the membership - at least as the not so moderate “moderate” MPs see it
Who are the real moderates
There was nothing moderate about the Iraq War or financial deregulation
There’s everything moderate about the Labour party’s current policies, including Brexit
There’s everything moderate about trying to come to an intra-party accommodation on Brexit
There’s everything moderate about trying to be a broad church party which tackles the big issues of our time head on
What’s hilarious is that some of those on this forum who now claim to support the Lib Dems, who want to cancel Article 50 outright, actually supported Brexit
You could not make it up #362942
So what are you saying here Sid?
He’s saying corbyn is a moderate.
Corbyn’s stance on brexit is the only moderate thing about him.
That and his approach to anything resembling work.
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Corbyn is a moderate
The Labour party has a spectrum of opinion, both among its MPs and among its supporters
The Labour party is the largest and most democratic party in the UK
Labour has a majority of remain supporters but a sizeable minority of people who want to see some form of Brexit as per the referendum result
Given that the Labour party is by its nature a broad church, the precise details of Labour’s Brexit policy were always going to cause problems
There are some who want a Brexit, mostly a Labour negotiated one but a very small minority who would find May’s deal acceptable
There are some who want a second referendum
There are some who want the party to campaign for Remain in any hypothetical second referendum
There are some who want the party to remain neutral in any hypothetical second referendum
There are some who want Article 50 simply cancelled
Corbyn is trying to bring everybody along
There’s a fine balance there
Any Labour leader has to do a number of things
i) Oppose any Tory Brexit because any Tory Brexit will be hugely damaging
ii) Respect the referendum result in principle
iii) Campaign on the basis of “let us have a go” at negotiating a deal
iv) Campaign to put it to the people at the end and then decide
I don’t want any Brexit but I admire the way Corbyn has tried to respect everybody in his quest for a solution
He’s one of the very few people in UK politics doing that
The Lib Dems for example have completely abandoned that now, while the Tories have never even tried to give the impression that they were out for anything except the profits of disaster capitalists, ie. themselves
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Some Catholics welcomed the British army which is hardly surprising given the numbers being burned out of their homes. Republicans were never going to accept a British uniform on Irish soil, it was the single greatest catalyst for the escalation of violence in NI.
The 1970s was the worst decade for the U.K. since the war, there is simply no denying that. The UK required a bailout like a third world country. Whatever good had been done historically by Labour was destroyed by the Wilson and Callaghan governments.
Corbyn and McDonnell would return the UK to the 70s or worse.
Corbyn is a moderate 
So if the CNR community welcomed the British Army, which they did, does that make them traitors?
The UK is a mess as it is - that’s overwhelmingly down to the Tories and neo-liberalist doctrine - Brexit was a project to blame the other for something that rich people and class warfare created - the time honoured bait and switch of right wingers that has been honed since the 1930s - as was Trump, obviously
Meanwhile most of the rest of northern Europe thrives
You supported Brexit - yet now you claim to support a party that wants to cancel Article 50 without consultation
You vilified Hillary Clinton and everything about her campaign - yet now you tell us that a so called “centrist” Democrat is the answer - Hillary Clinton couldn’t have been a more “centrist” Democrat if she’d tried
None of what you say makes sense