I’m open to correction but I don’t remember Corbyn saying there would be a better deal than being in the EU?
Surely if he believed that he’d have just campaigned to Leave in 2016?
Do you want a unilateral revocation of Article 50?
Same question to any other posters who say they support the Lib Dems
Are we debating David Cameron or Jeremy Corbyn?
David Cameron was on his first election in 2010. Corbyn is on his second.
A coalition is a shit result for Labour and a shit result for the “movement”.
That’ll just have them screaming “mainstream media” and “fake news” type things., ironically enough.
Tell us again Laz how losing elections makes you the real winners.
You need a few more JC4PM accounts to lift material from.
Corbyn’s Labour got over 2 million more votes in 2017 than Cameron’s Tories in 2010
Surely that means Cameron was “unelectable”?
Yeah like attacking that Times reporter earlier. We saw @Lazarus a bit behind the memo earlier in bringing the Murdoch Media lies in when that was already cleared up by Jez himself.
Go way and get the ride lads. Bloody hell.
Did he win the election?
No he did not.
What votes has he won apart from leadership ones with insurgents from the SWP helping?
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I dont know what jc4pm is being honest.
Corbyn was apparrantly a joke last time but still increased his partys presence in government by 30 seats thus heralding a new dawn for the left with one hand while stuffing the Tory majority all the polls were predicting(and I know how you believe in your polls) with the other
Thats not just a win for labour but in fact a win-win for all
Tim, I’m only applying your Corbyn standard to Cameron here
Cameron got over 2 million less votes than Corbyn in what was widely considered to be a slam dunk situation for him in 2010
The 2017 election was widely considered to be a slam dunk for the Tories but did not turn out that way at all
Yet Cameron is considered “Mr. Electability” despite a poor performance in a very favourable situation for him in 2010
No it’s a pretty honest position.
Sidney himself has said Referendums in the UK cannot work.
The Lib Dems say if they get a majority, through the system the UK has, they will implement a policy.
Jeremy Corbyn’s “neutrality” doesn’t cut it anymore.
Are you drunk?
Lib Dems are just hoovering up all the cheap votes they can. They have taken the polar opposite line to Farage and in such a devisive political climate that will reap dividends for them. The tories are in freefall
Corbyn is the only one being any way statesmanlike
You’re spinning desperately here.
Where was Cameron ever held out as such? He was under huge pressure before that election because of the polls turning against them.
But the fact was it was his first general election after credible performances in previous local and Euro votes. It is also certain if he didn’t get into DS after that first vote, he was gone. Corbyn has lost national vote after national vote. But the cult keeps him there.
He’s said very little different to Cameron in 2015 there and certainly didn’t explicitly say that a better deal outside the EU was on offer
It was pretty non-committal stuff, standard Sunday morning talkshow fare
His real message is that if he and Labour can have a go at negotiating, and negotiating likely wouldn’t take that long as most of the parameters for those negotiations are already in place, he can get a decent deal, and then let the cards fall as they may in a referendum versus remain
That seems pretty reasonable to me
“Cheap votes”
A vote is a vote.
You’re obsession with polls won’t win you any arguments young man. Try reading up on their success rates in the last decade