[quote=“Rocko, post: 773066, member: 1”]I presume croppy_boy is just digging his heels in because he made the original error but I have no idea why you’re joining him on this doomed argument.
There is no rational argument to be made that says that Irish people living in the 6 counties who represent Ireland should count towards our medal haul but should be excluded from the Irish population. There’s no logic to that and it results in a distorted figure.
It doesn’t matter that Croppy Boy didn’t come up with the figure himself, nor does it matter that it took him 3 attempts at reading the table to understand it properly. It’s mathematically and logically wrong.[/quote]
Include them in the population, it’s not going to change the per capita that much, there is only about 10 of them.
[FONT=Calibri]caoimhaoin[/USER] has been following the grand old TFK tradition of attacking the poster here because he hates [USER=1]Rocko[/USER] (admin and capitalist pig reasons). But he’s aligned himself to the argument of [USER=306]croppy_boy[/USER], and this argument has no merit and has been clinically torn apart by [USER=1]Rocko.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Calibri]Ergo, Rocko[/USER] 1-0 [USER=273]caoimhaoin[/USER] + [USER=306]croppy_boy[/FONT]
[quote=“croppy_boy, post: 773072, member: 306”]I never made that argument. The argument that I was making was that Ireland did not, by any standard you choose for measuring and even accounting for the incorrect phrasing I used in my original statement, have a 'shite Olympics as fingal raven argued.
I have no idea why you’re so intent on backing him up in his argument that we did.[/quote]
You argued plenty of times that your figures were right. I never debated anything else with you except to point out that they’re wrong. It won’t be the end of your credibility if you acknowledge that, or even stop arguing it. It’s a little surprising that you continued to suggest your figures were correct after you were told how they were flawed.
[FONT=Georgia][quote=“Rocko, post: 772853, member: 1”][/quote][/FONT][quote=“Rocko, post: 772853, member: 1”][FONT=Georgia]Now, onto my second criticism of the calculation: you’re using a conveniently partitionist set of figures that is based on the Irish population being 4.6m. That’s the population of the 26 counties - 2 of our medallists were from the 6 counties.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Georgia]If you want to use the full population of the island then the total is 6.4m so by my reckoning that puts us 30th on the medals table per capita. [/FONT][/quote][FONT=Georgia][/FONT]
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[FONT=Georgia][quote=“Rocko, post: 773099, member: 1”]You argued plenty of times that your figures were right. I never debated anything else with you except to point out that they’re wrong.[/quote][/FONT]
Wrong.[/quote]
You’re a very strange individual. You’ve just quoted my post doing exactly what I’ve claimed, ie proving your numbers are wrong. They were wrong the first time you posted them. They were wrong the second time you posted them. And they’re still wrong. Forget about them. They’ll still be wrong the next time you post them.
I think Rocko is confusing people who may be entitled to Irish citizenship with Irish citizens. A simple mistake to make and no one will hold it against him.
[quote=“croppy_boy, post: 773107, member: 306”]You debated whether we should should include the population of a country where the majority of the citizen do not hold Irish passports.
Wrong.[/quote]
I am immensely looking forward to your thoughts on the international match between Cavan and Armagh at Breffni Park this weekend. It sickens me that you’d be so worked up about using incorrect data to support an argument that you’d become such a firm advocate of the border.
Oh no please don’t do this. Please don’t be even further wrong. There are more Irish citizens than Irish residents. If you want to extend the population to Irish citizens then we’re even worse on that table.
I’m not talking about the table, I don’t really care about that. It is silly to use the population of the island of Ireland to arrive at this figure though. The correct figure to use would be the number citizens IMO.
And how would you account for people who are citizens of more than one country? It’s an intriguing idea. I look forward to perusing your revised medals by citizen table when you have completed it.
[quote=“Rocko, post: 772853, member: 1”]
If you want to use the full population of the island then the total is 6.4m so by my reckoning that puts us 30th on the medals table per capita.
If you prefer the paritionist numbers you’ve supplied above then the divisor is 3 medals, not 5. That would leave us in 33rd place on the table.[/quote]
You could count them for either country. It would make more sense than counting in a bunch of people who are citizens of, and live in, another country and have no desire to part of Ireland, sadly.
Cool. Look forward to reading your stats when you pull them together. Even let us know when you’ve worked out how many Irish citizens there are so we can gauge your progress. We don’t want you pulling a croppy_boy on it and drawing false conclusions based on unreliable and misleading data sources.