[quote=“croppy_boy, post: 772977, member: 306”]No, Ireland didn’t have a ‘shite Olympics’ .
Therefore I’m not wrong.[/quote]
Were the figures you posted correct?
As per the official results per population (not ones I threw together myself, Ireland are ranked in 22nd by all of the below sources. So yes, to say that Ireland were 22nd overall on medal per head of population is indeed correct.
[quote=“croppy_boy, post: 772979, member: 306”]You disregarded the medals won by the population of Northern Ireland for Team GB in your statistics, thereby ridiculing your own nonsensical argument. You served your own argument by underestimating the contribution of medals won by the population of 2 million in Northern Ireland to your adjusted figures to serve your own argument.
Hypocrite.[/quote]
I didn’t disregard them at all. I included the medals won by Team GB as medals won by Team GB, not as medals won by Ireland. The reasons for that should be apparent but I’ll make it even more clear.
I divided the number of medals won by people representing Ireland by the population of Ireland. That included all medals won by people representing Ireland irrespective of where they were born. Forget patriotism or semantics or anything else - that’s how the calculation makes sense.
[quote=“croppy_boy, post: 772993, member: 306”]As per the official results per population (not ones I threw together myself, Ireland are ranked in 22nd by all of the below sources. So yes, to say that Ireland were 22nd overall on medal per head of population is indeed correct.
http://simon.forsyth.net/olympics.html
http://www.medalspercapita.com/[/quote]
Your last refuge - put the word “official” beside something so you don’t have to worry about its accuracy.
The statistics you posted aren’t official, they’re even presented on the Guardian as being an alternative to the official statistics. They’re also wrong. Please, for the love of God, and for your own sanity and Kev’s sanity, stop pretending they’re right.
[quote=“Rocko, post: 773005, member: 1”]I didn’t disregard them at all. I included the medals won by Team GB as medals won by Team GB, not as medals won by Ireland. The reasons for that should be apparent but I’ll make it even more clear.
I divided the number of medals won by people representing Ireland by the population of Ireland. That included all medals won by people representing Ireland irrespective of where they were born. Forget patriotism or semantics or anything else - that’s how the calculation makes sense.
Your last refuge - put the word “official” beside something so you don’t have to worry about its accuracy.
The statistics you posted aren’t official, they’re even presented on the Guardian as being an alternative to the official statistics. They’re also wrong. Please, for the love of God, and for your own sanity and Kev’s sanity, stop pretending they’re right.[/quote]
They’re based on the official statistics you gimp.
A formula like Official Population divided by actual number of medals won by the IOC member country. All finite figures that can be used for such purposes.
Jog on.
Rocko, you cannot use the same people for averaging medals won for 2 different countries.
Your argument is completely retarded and ignores reality and no matter how many of your mates pat you in the back for it, it doesn’t make it any less silly.
Rocko[/USER] is cleaning house here and [USER=306]croppy_boy[/USER] and [USER=273]caoimhaoin are badly rattled.
+1
a big pat on the back for Rocko for destroying these two quislings
croppy_boy[/USER] and [USER=273]caoimhaoin claiming 1 in every 4 Irish people are Olympic medalists, and calling dissenters idiots. Only on TFK. 
0.2118 per million of population does not equal in every people has won an Olympic Gold medal. (as per [I][SIZE=12px][FONT=Segoe UI]http://simon.forsyth.net/olympics.html[/FONT][/SIZE][/I] )
Are you an accountant?
If you want to separate the island of Ireland from the mainland to see how it performed in the Olympics, you divide its 2012 population of 6.3 million with the seven medals won by people from the island out of the 70 won by Team GB & I as a whole.
That gives one medal for every 900,000 inhabitants, which, in a hypothetical situation where Ireland was independent, would leave it in 20th position. Credit to those plucky Irish who actuallly punched above their weight in terms of medals won, compared to the mainland.
[quote=“croppy_boy, post: 773030, member: 306”]0.2118 per million of population does not equal in every people has won an Olympic Gold medal. (as per [I][SIZE=12px][FONT=Segoe UI]http://simon.forsyth.net/olympics.html[/FONT][/SIZE][/I] )
Are you an accountant?[/quote]
That’s not what you said first. You said we won 0.2118 of a medal per head of population
One per 917,650 was the figure from the source I quoted.
[quote=“croppy_boy, post: 773030, member: 306”]0.2118 per million of population does not equal in every people has won an Olympic Gold medal. (as per [I][SIZE=12px][FONT=Segoe UI]http://simon.forsyth.net/olympics.html[/FONT][/SIZE][/I] )
Are you an accountant?[/quote]
Yes, I’m a chartered accountant. The best of the best. See Mac’s post where he kindly saves me the bother of clamping you.
will somebody please think of the children!
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 773015, member: 273”]Rocko, you cannot use the same people for averaging medals won for 2 different countries.
Your argument is completely retarded and ignores reality and no matter how many of your mates pat you in the back for it, it doesn’t make it any less silly.[/quote]
I presume croppy_boy is just digging his heels in because he made the original error but I have no idea why you’re joining him on this doomed argument.
There is no rational argument to be made that says that Irish people living in the 6 counties who represent Ireland should count towards our medal haul but should be excluded from the Irish population. There’s no logic to that and it results in a distorted figure.
It doesn’t matter that Croppy Boy didn’t come up with the figure himself, nor does it matter that it took him 3 attempts at reading the table to understand it properly. It’s mathematically and logically wrong.
Hmmm reading back now does anyone else suspect that croppy_boy thinks per capita means per million?
[quote=“croppy_boy, post: 772479, member: 306”]Sorry, Australia came 18 with 0.3180 medals per head of capita.
Ireland came 22 with 0.2118 medal per head of capita.*
- not shit in the Olympics[/quote]
No source quoted. No mention of per million persons. Wrong wrong wrong.
I’m beginning to think that. He couldn’t be that stupid could he?
[quote=“Rocko, post: 773066, member: 1”]I presume croppy_boy is just digging his heels in because he made the original error but I have no idea why you’re joining him on this doomed argument.
There is no rational argument to be made that says that Irish people living in the 6 counties who represent Ireland should count towards our medal haul but should be excluded from the Irish population. There’s no logic to that and it results in a distorted figure.
It doesn’t matter that Croppy Boy didn’t come up with the figure himself, nor does it matter that it took him 3 attempts at reading the table to understand it properly. It’s mathematically and logically wrong.[/quote]
I never made that argument. The argument that I was making was that Ireland did not, by any standard you choose for measuring and even accounting for the incorrect phrasing I used in my original statement, have a 'shite Olympics as fingal raven argued.
I have no idea why you’re so intent on backing him up in his argument that we did.