Starmer’s Labour got over 3 million votes less than Corbyn’s Labour in 2017.
It’s a landslide by default and the seeds of a disaster are there for the next election.
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What are you basing that on?
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Well if the Tories get their house in order there will be a lot of marginals in play the next time. Still think Labour will get two terms unless they really fuck things up.
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No he’s not. He’s an entitled, incompetent, sniveling little two faced cumt. A typical fucking Tory in other words.
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He comes across as OK to me, or maybe that’s just because of the Tory headbangers he’s surrounded by.
That Reform party pulled in something around 14% of the vote. That’s a huge amount in such a shorty space of time. With 4 seats you’d wonder how influential they can be and can they kick on? We have seen before that smaller party’s tend to struggle to build on results election after election. They tend to take the brunt of it too if people don’t see and immediate change in circumstances.
I would imagine if STVPR or AVPR were to be introduced in the UK you’d never see a majority government again. It would end up like Italy or Israel in terms of forming an administration.
There is an incredible lack of enthusiasm for Labour. Nationwide they’ve pulled about 60,000 votes more than John Major’s Tories did in the landslide of 1997.
For Labour everything now depends on who takes over the Tories and how the Tories’ relationship with Farage evolves.
If Hunt gets the leadership of the Tories they become a much more electable prospect but Reform probably strengthens.
If Braverman gets it she could take back a lot of the Reform votes but be much more repellent to potential swing voters.
Labour have potential to tap their “reserve pool” of voters who went to the Greens this time if the headbangers rise, but they will also likely lose votes to the Lib Dems next time.
The volatility of British politics is such that nothing is certain. It isn’t a 1997 type situation where Blair was clearly going to get at least two terms. There are a lot more variables and unfocussed anger at play and the unfocussed anger is increasingly being channelled towards immigrants.
Exactly. So why would the big parties support it?
If they pick Suella they can pack up.
I expect they will. But how long she lasts is anybody’s guess. She might last two years. Hunt could take over mid-term.
I think they need to pick and leader and stick with them for some time, this business of changing leader so frequently needs to end.
Well yes, but they’re nuts. I mean the party membership picked Liz Truss. This is the sort of person they go for. It’s like Republican primaries going for Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene and people like that.
The real risk to Britain is Farage taking over the Tory party. That is not a zero risk.
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Not a zero risk but I think he’ll be otherwise occupied with hiding his sources of funding for a good while before he gets around to it. Actually being elected brings a lot of scrutiny he wouldn’t be under if he lost and that cuntknuckle doesn’t like being asked questions.
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Tory leader odds:
Kemi Badenoch 11/4
Tom Tugendhat 7/2
Priti Patel 6/1
Suella Braverman 7/1
Jeremy Hunt 15/2
Robert Jenrick 17/2
Nigel Fartage 10/1
James Cleverley 12/1
Boris Johnson 14/1
Kemi Badenoch as Tory leader would be Liz Trussesque. She’d be a total calamity. You can’t run a racist, anti-immigrant, anti-“woke” culture war headbanger party as a deeply stupid person who is also black without crashing and burning.
Rishi Sunak tried that and he looks like Churchill compared to Badenoch.
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The rules are different for fascists. Their supporters and potential supporters don’t care about corruption, corruption is an integral part of fascism’s appeal.
