Just looking at that penalty decision on screen for the first time. Fucking joke of a decision. Fairly clear from the far end of the ground that Broadfoot went looking for contact and went down very soft but the referee guesses otherwise the prick. The hun media who decided to publicise the fact he teaches in a Catholic school as some sort of relevant fact all over the papers this week wonât be as quick to shove this down his throat.
This is in the same week when the linesman from last weekâs game confirmed that he didnât overrule the referee at all and didnât intervene but that both the referee and Hugh Dallas decided to say it was his intervention just to protect the referee. Fucking disgraceful.
None of that changes the fact that Celtic were appalling today but the cheating goes on.
Didnât see the Stokes tackle on Papac; The Dancingbaby, The Beak and The Voice got way laid in the pub and were late up to the ground with our tickets. :guns:
We started very nervously. Stood off them a bit and some playersâ touch and passing was noticeably off. We left quite a gap between our midfield and forward players and struggled for cohesion.
We gradually got a grip on the game and stepped up as a unit. Ki played some nice football and I think we can utilise his obvious talent better.
McCulloch, having previously been booked for his wild lunge, should have been sent off for the foul on Samaras when breaking.
Hooper took his goal beautifully; 6 goals in his last 6 starts and heâs quite impressive in most facets of front play.
Great buzz at half time and the chat was all about building on it and giving them nothing soft. :rolleyes:
The second half display was pitiful and they deserved to win, albeit we again have valid misgivings about refereeing decisions.
Poor defending of the set piece for the equaliser. We were behind the far goal so it was difficult to tell if a) Forster should have come for it and B) how the fuck Loovens managed to bundle it into the goal.
The second goal was just criminal from the panicky passing in defence when some basic composure should be a basic prerequisite to Forsterâs shit clearance to the slow reactions of Majstorovic and Loovens after that.
I am told that Broadfoot dived for the penalty and the referee had his back to the incident after the ball ricocheted off him, yet he still awarded it. Itâs better for their career progression if they make these decisions but itâs quite inexplicable.
We were on the ropes at 2-1 but 3-1 was the knock-out blow.
I think Izaguirre, Ki, Juarez, Hooper and Ledley to a lesser extent did okay. I think Ki and Hooper were possibly the pick of our players. Itâs a slightly arbitrary contention but you need 7 or so players reaching a good level to win a derby and we had 3 or thereabouts.
Weâre still clearly a work in progress and I mentioned the vast array of our players making derby debuts earlier in the week. They should learn from it.
Lennon also needs to learn a few things; Wilson doesnât warrant a first team place; we still need to replace Loovens and we canât continue with his ineptitude and cowardly play; we need to play Juarez infield to get the best out of him and Stokes is not a wide player. I wouldnât be as harsh as larry on Samaras - his effort was unquestionable and he was always involved but his decision making and execution is all over the place. Heâs basically unreliable and I think we should build around a Stokes/Hooper partnership.
It was nice to see legends of the game at Celtic Park today like Michel Platini, Marco Tardelli and Colin Calderwood.
Yeah I donât disagree with any of that Bandage which is hardly surprising considering we both have great football minds.
Posted a video of the penalty incident there at the same time as your post.
I think we need to go for two up front alright and Hooper needs to be one obviously. Stokes is probably the most capable partner for him despite his performance today. Weâve been a bit short on wingers with McGeady moving on and Forrest, Maloney, McGinn and McCourt all picking up regular injuries. So I donât think the answer to that is to play a wide sort of formation with Stokes and Samaras out there.
And I think Juarez is much too good not to be starting in that team. Iâd have him with Ledley for the moment. Not writing Ki off but until we start using him in a decent system thereâs not much point in picking him there.
Something like:
Forster_
Izaguirre at the back with 3 idiots
Maloney_Juarez__Ledley_McCourt
Stokes__Hooper____
or else put Ki in there and put Juarez wider with Maloney playing on the left instead of McCourt with a bit of license to come inside and get involved in the centre.
I have watched that footage now and itâs as galling as all the other incidents over the years. How can he give a penalty for an incident he hasnât even seen? Itâs defies logic, it really does.
Rocko was also involved in a strange incident in the queue at the stadium. Some chap tapped him on the shoulder and said, âYou dropped your envelope, pal.â So Rocko replied, âOh yeah, thanks for thatâ, and picked it up. It was like that other recent incident when a taxi driver asked Rocko was he acting in the play he was driving him to and Rocko said that he was. I simply donât understand why Rocko gets so nervous and automatically replies in the affirmative all the time.
Anyway, it wasnât Rockoâs envelope - it was a discarded one. He looked inside and there was a ticket receipt page in it that confirmed the club has sent out 4 tickets to Mr P. Murphy, Carlisle United Football Club, Brunton Park, CarlisleâŠI imagine it referred to Dublin born Peter Murphy, whoâs been playing for them in League 1 and League 2 for years now after failing to make the grade at Blackburn:
But the funny thing was he also had the words to Youâll Never Walk Alone printed out on a sheet of white printer paper inside the envelope.
Some of them are getting pissed in bars in Dublin and Fingal but others didnât feel like attending the after âpartyâ events given the result. Iâve had a few bottles of grog while watching the American Football instead.
you are one delusional clown really. A grown man and its pretty sad to see.
the taig manager neil lennon tried to put pressure on the ref all week through the âhun mediaâ with what can best be described as misguided anti GC paranoia. Poor decision from Lennon and I dont think the martyrs can be blaming the hun media for being comprehensively beaten in a football game either. The fact that the ref is a religion teacher was ironically relevant anyway I would have thought given the sectarian occasion but it was Lennon that drew attention to the ref in the build up so dont be crying. Smith left his talking to the end of the game. If Lennon can learn his lesson that will be a start.
was reading the guardian report on the game, including glenndinnings min by min report today. Pretty funny stuff anyway Iâll summarise - it appears GCFC should have had two players sent off. stokes and samaras, stokes in the first minute and samaras for kneeing the keeper in the head. other consensus - was never a penalty and mccullloch should have got a second yellow but his first one was undeserved. the GR 3 - davis, mcculloch and edu destroyed the lightweight opposition midfield and GC collapsed in the second half. despite the hun media, dive for penalty etc etc, GRFC were the best side throughout and won easily.
Naturally when it comes to Glasgow Celtic, delusion is the order of the day. Referees in Scotland and elsewhere are plain incompetent. It aint just soccer either its most sports. Until the day, robots are invented to referee mistakes will continue to be made. Human error will continue to be part of the game. Take the weekend - Gary Neville should have been sent off no doubt about it, Villa should definitely have had a penalty against Sunderland yet sickened and all as the opposition are they dont go bleating on about conspiracies. The Carling Cup final last year - the height of Villaâs progress in recent years, Vidic should have been sent off - ref bottled it. Again no conspiracy just plain incompetence. I think GCFC and their band of followers would be better off concentrating on their own team and the reportedly huge deficiencies that were shown up on the day rather than things they or noone can change - the incompetence of referees.
How did ye manage that ? We were on the Upper deck of the stand and you were on the lower level and we got in before the players took to the field.
As regular readers of this thread will know, the plan was to meet in Jurys. Instead Bandage and Rocko decided to go to an Internet cafe and asked would I meet them outside the ground to give them their tickets.
To this I agreed, and although there were traffic problems in the Trongate, Gallowgate and Forge areas of Glasgow, we still arrived in plenty of time for you to get into the ground in time for kick off.
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was reading the guardian report on the game, including glenndinnings min by min report today. Pretty funny stuff anyway Iâll summarise - it appears GCFC should have had two players sent off. stokes and samaras, stokes in the first minute and samaras for kneeing the keeper in the head.[/quote]
Try reading that minute by minute report about the match you have no interest in again precious. Your in-depth knowledge of football clearly doesnât extend to figuring out that Naismith is not the goalkeeper for the huns.
Ah this is great stuff. Youâre just lying now. Glendenningâs minute by minute report which is the source of all your information on the game says about McCullochâs first booking:
" Lee McCullochâs name goes into the book for a horrible lunge on Emilio Izaguirre as Celtic broke on the counter-attackâŠ"
Translated for you that became âhis first one was undeserved.â What a gobshite. Why not just stick to the truth? You only make an idiot of yourself when youâre caught bluffing repeatedly.
Enjoy spending the rest of your Monday evening trawling through various reports and blogs to decipher what actually happened. And enjoy resisting the temptation to just walk away from this thread while instead youâll spend a good 25 minutes of your free time scanning various media outlets trying to find out more about a game you claim to have zero interest in. And then enjoy trying to sound rational when debating those incidents with people who saw them despite your own admission that you didnât see them yourself.
Highly amusing. A subject you just canât leave alone despite your pathetic protestations in the build-up that itâs on a par with the Bristol derby for importance. And you just canât walk away from these threads. God love you. If you want to support Celtic or the huns instead of your no-mark club just do it. Spare us all the hypocrisy though.
Oh and if you are overcome by your burning desire to return and bleat on about a subject you know nothing about at least do us all the favour and leave an irrelevant Carling Cup match out of your analysis. Thereâs a good boy.
I think the point about Celtic being on the wrong end of most derby referee decisions is pertinent because these 4 games (2 more head to head games than most other European Leagues) can go a long way to deciding where the league title rests at the end of the season.
So a contentious decision in Celtic/Huns is of far more significance to the ultimate destination of the championship than one in St Johnstone/Aberdeen. Similarly, a major call in Chelsea/Manchester United will be much more important in terms of who wins the EPL than a debatable decision in a game between league also rans like Sunderland/Aston Villa.
Desperately disappointing result as I hate losing to those cunts but no excuses. Rangers were the better side and thoroughly deserved their victory.
We definitely canât afford to go to Ibrox on 2 Jan any more than 3 points behind as right now, I would not be at all confident of getting a win there.
Things can change though and Rangers have a small squad. If the likes of Bougherra, Davis or Miller got injured, they could struggle.
