And match fixing, which eliminates both Juventus and Marseille
The 1995 and 1998 finals had under 50k at them
1993 and 1997 were played in a stadium which is no longer even used for club football
This makes them worthless
OGS record v champions league finalists played two, won one and drawn one. One goal scored and zero conceded. Ogs record v Europa league finalists: played 2, lost 1 and drawn 1. Scored 2 and conceded 4. Easy tell who are the stronger sides.
Manchester United and Manchester United reserves?
Chelsea and arsenal. Liverpool bizarrely settling for a draw against the worst man united team in the last 30 years will in all likelihood cost them the title.
Last week we were having the season of a lifetime, now weâre only Europa League level. Youâre all over the place here kid.
That sums up spurs. Low expectations.
Yes, pal, Chelsea and Arsenal are better than Tottenham and Liverpool
I fully agree with you and your logic
Like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, youâre coming up with revolutionary ways of thinking about the game
You da man
Rangers and Zenit St. Petersburg were also better than Manchester United and Chelsea in 2008
What date is it on?
I donât think they were at all man united won the league that season, the season before and the league the season after. Man united were the best team in Europe.
Low expectations? Weâre in the European Cup Final. You follow a club with a sacking culture who for its fourth manager in six years have settled for a novice whoâs managerial track record is getting Cardiff City relegated and managing a crowd of lumberjacks and fishermen part timers in the Scandinavian leagues.
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If Barca had gone through and if Ajax prevented the last goal and gone through, people would be calling it the greatest CL of all time.
Sorry pal, you canât be a football fan and not love Griezmann.
Also Atletico play some lovely passing football.
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Yet they couldnât win their European final
Manchester United were beaten at Manchesterâs Emirates Airlines Arena that season while Zenit won there
Manchester United could not win in Russia
That is proof that Zenit were better
Also Zenit beat Manchester United in the European Super Cup
More irrefutable proof
Man united have won more leagues in the last ten years than Liverpool and spurs combined in the last 20 years.
In terms of entertainment and drama it is the best CL of all time
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Exactly
Barca and Ajax have rich European history and are both league champions. It would have been a proper final.
Standard is awful though.
I donât get what your point was