Its my understanding that Rio being as thick as he is, assumed the ref had just awarded Utd a penalty.
I would like to wish Kelvin, Kris and Neil the very best best of luck in Turin tomorrow night.
Bring it home lads!
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Congratulations to Cunyet Cakir for standing up to the Old Trafford bullies 
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That Refs name is very close to what I think of him
LOL mad Paddy on newstalk there. Of course he was as distraught as poor fergie.
Lads getting very excited over the sending off.
The biggest injustice of all time? Eh, no not really. Not even a little bit.
Just imagine Nani had come in slightly high and late and kicked a fella in the knee, he would have been rightly sent off.
Instead he jumped in late with what would have been a head high kick, if the man stayed on the ground, and even as it was caught him in the side.
It was a dangerous tackle for which the referee was well within the rules to send him off.
I doubt he intended it as he is a cowardly fuck, but that is neither he nor there (I doubt Ramos intended to kick it into his own net either). The red is for a dangerous tackle, which it was, intent is irrelevant. As is whether he actually hurt him or not.
Add to that the fact that the Ref only got to see it once and I think it was very understandable decision. Harsh probably, but definately not an injustice.
The real cunt in this scenario is Nani jumping around the place with his leg up.
Having said all that United fell apart after the decision, no leadership to guide them through despite several experienced players on the field. They should look a bit harder at themselves.
Crerand was drunker than usual on Newstalk this morning-it must be like a death in the family at Old Trafford this morning. Poor Sir Alex was too mad to even attend the press conference meaning everybody lost out on what would have been TV gold. A dark, dark 24 hours for the game of soccer.
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Having said all that United fell apart after the decision, no leadership to guide them through despite several experienced players on the field. They should look a bit harder at themselves.[/quote]
Throughout the two legs I always felt United just didnât believe they were good enough to beat Real (I donât know why because Real Madrid were no great shakes). The players seemed to be like a non-league team playing in the FA Cup, hoping they would hang on. By the reaction of the players to sending off you could see they were beaten, no chance of holding out. Straight away dropped back into the 18 yard box like there was 3 minutes left.
Itâs impossible to take Paddy Crerand seriously these days.
Paddy thought a yellow card for each player would have been fair.
[quote=âJulio Geordio, post: 744899, member: 332â]Lads getting very excited over the sending off.
The biggest injustice of all time? Eh, no not really. Not even a little bit.
Just imagine Nani had come in slightly high and late and kicked a fella in the knee, he would have been rightly sent off.
Instead he jumped in late with what would have been a head high kick, if the man stayed on the ground, and even as it was caught him in the side.
It was a dangerous tackle for which the referee was well within the rules to send him off.
I doubt he intended it as he is a cowardly fuck, but that is neither he nor there (I doubt Ramos intended to kick it into his own net either). The red is for a dangerous tackle, which it was, intent is irrelevant. As is whether he actually hurt him or not.
Add to that the fact that the Ref only got to see it once and I think it was very understandable decision. Harsh probably, but definately not an injustice.
The real cunt in this scenario is Nani jumping around the place with his leg up.
Having said all that United fell apart after the decision, no leadership to guide them through despite several experienced players on the field. They should look a bit harder at themselves.[/quote]
Arbeloaâs tackle on Evra was worse, yet no red.
[quote=âJulio Geordio, post: 744899, member: 332â]Lads getting very excited over the sending off.
The biggest injustice of all time? Eh, no not really. Not even a little bit.
Just imagine Nani had come in slightly high and late and kicked a fella in the knee, he would have been rightly sent off.
Instead he jumped in late with what would have been a head high kick, if the man stayed on the ground, and even as it was caught him in the side.
It was a dangerous tackle for which the referee was well within the rules to send him off.
I doubt he intended it as he is a cowardly fuck, but that is neither he nor there (I doubt Ramos intended to kick it into his own net either). The red is for a dangerous tackle, which it was, intent is irrelevant. As is whether he actually hurt him or not.
Add to that the fact that the Ref only got to see it once and I think it was very understandable decision. Harsh probably, but definately not an injustice.
The real cunt in this scenario is Nani jumping around the place with his leg up.
Having said all that United fell apart after the decision, no leadership to guide them through despite several experienced players on the field. They should look a bit harder at themselves.[/quote]
No doubting Nani is a cunt alright and United proved what an average side they are the way they completely folded after the sending off. The players knew it, the manager knew it and the fans knew it-the minute Nani was sent off the match was over and United were never going to hang on. Madrid have the better players. Technically by the letter of the law the referee was ENTITLED to send Nani off. Having said that, anybody who has ever played soccer to any level above astroturf or 5 a side knows that it wasnât a sending off offence-not in a million years.
if he was entitled to send him off then it clearly was a sending off offence.
mind you the ref missed the handball by rafael which would have been a red and a peno
TBH, Man Utd were very fortunate to get ahead and never really looked like the better team, even when there was parity of numbers. Modricâs goal was an absolute thumper and must surely have moved in a foot during its flight to go from outside the post to inside it. The better team went through and though I think the sending off was wrong and disagree that it was a dangerous tackle. Nanis eyes remained on the ball for the entirety of its flight as did Ramos. These things happen when two guys are hell bent on getting to the ball first, are we going to start asking players now to strap on sensors that will beep when they are close to another obstacle (recent revelations in tommy bowe documentary aside)
And Rafael got away with a blatant handball which should have resulted in a straight red and a pen.
[quote=âartfoley, post: 744917, member: 179â]if he was entitled to send him off then it clearly was a sending off offence.
mind you the ref missed the handball by rafael which would have been a red and a peno[/quote]
Youâve never played the game so boss.
and that why the players turned pundits are continually exposed as bluffers by refs.
youre probably one of those "ref ruined the spectacle"types ignoring the actions of the players which caused the ref to issue a red.
Would you include 6 a side in that?
And Lopez punched Vidic clean in the face, missed the ball completely.
The referee penalised Arbeloa, his tackle was every bit as dangerous as Naniâs.
you are contradicting yourself you clown. how can someone be entitled to send a player off, and then say he shouldnt be sent off in a million years.
I think it was harsh, but it wasnt the worst sending off I have ever seen, not by a long shot. The way some going on about it from the club and retards on bookface etc youâd swear the world was ending. I didnt agree with the refs decision, but its one of those ones that can happen if you go flying in with your foot raised at head height when another player is chesting the ball.
I mentioned this at the time of the card, or at least that Naniâs tackle was no worse, and I think Bandage picked up on it too. Arbeloaâs tackle certainly looked as bad or worse on the couple of views we got of it. Surprised the producer didnât show us a couple more views of it at the time.
Donât think the Nani one was cut and dried either way. He was a bit reckless but it was definitely harsh. I donât think he helped himself though - by even taking a small bit of evasive action, and he has time to change the angle of the contact, he would have saved himself a red card. I think he was a bit cowardly in leaving his leg there but I doubt he was expecting to be sent off for it.
[quote=âartfoley, post: 744922, member: 179â]and that why the players turned pundits are continually exposed as bluffers by refs.
youre probably one of those "ref ruined the spectacle"types ignoring the actions of the players which caused the ref to issue a red.[/quote]
Not at all-I just lose more and more interest in soccer when I see what a game for very soft feminine men it has become. Feigning injury is now the norm and tackling hard for the ball is being outlawed. This incident doesnât really fall under either category as Nani did connect with the Arbeloa(although he overdid the rolling around but that is now accepted as part of the game by everyone including FIFA) and neither was it a hard tackle as Nani was merely trying to control the ball. But if you genuinely thought that was a straight red, as in the minute you saw the incident you thought to yourself thatâs a red card then I would have to wonder have you ever really played a proper 11 a side match before.
Of course if you are just ball hopping and winding up the United lads then I 100% agree with you it was a red card and Nani should be up in court on attempted murder charges.