Champions League - Round of 16

[quote=ā€œRocko, post: 564029ā€]
Agreed with all that.

Serious achievement for Spurs. Milan should have at least won on the night and Spurs will have to defend better in the next round. Newstalk were making an awful lot of the fact they kept two clean sheets against Milan but they enjoyed good fortune and they really should have conceded if Robinho in particular had shown more composure. Milan really lacked that bit extra in midfield, particularly in the first leg. Theyā€™ve fallen a long way from the Ambrosini-Pirlo-Gattuso-Seedorf-Kaka combination that had excellent players playing disciplined but fluid roles in an excellent system.[/quote]

FFSā€¦
if you want to see hpow far they have really fallen stick on a video of the 1989 european cup final against Steau and watch the midfield play if Colombo / Donadoni / Rijkaard and Ancelloti and the way Donadoni linked up with MVB and Gullit, more of the same was observed if i remember ( sid will correct me) in 1990 aginst Benfica and Roberto Evani replaced Donadoni who missed the game after the semi final ( i think) with redStar and the Red Star phsyio famously had to break his jaw as he lay unconsious to get air to his lungsā€¦

that was a Milan teamā€¦

Ah obviously that was a better team but Iā€™m just talking about recent evolution. I mean Seedorf, Ambrosini, Gattuso and Pirlo are all still at the club so thatā€™s why I made that comparison.

Other game seemed like a belter tonight. Govranovic - tell me more about this character, please.

Valencia seemed to be on top for much of that game but looked a decent contest.

Gavranovic doesnā€™t have much form with Schalke. Young lad but hadnā€™t done much before tonight.

That French left back for Valencia looks like a cracking player any time Iā€™ve watched them.

Ya, he was taken out for a penalty as well that wasnā€™t given. I switched between the 2 of them, Valencia had piles of ball, but in fairness Schalke were just a bit sharper up front.

Couple of corrections Mickee: :smiley:
i) it was Alberigo Evani not Roberto Evani
ii) Milan beat Bayern Munich in the semi final in 1990, they may have beaten Red Star in an earlier round alright, they definitely beat them in the 88/89 season on penalties in Belgrade after the original second leg was abandoned with Red Star winning (due to fog I think).

Not much of a midfielder but he could produce the heck out of a movie :clap:

I thought that was one of the Big Zā€™s better European performances - I can remember 2 decent things he did in the second half - one nice little ball across the box with the outside of his right foot and the one-two with Robinho at the end, and itā€™s certainly shut up former critics like myself who doubted that Zlatan could produce it on the big stage.

[quote=ā€œmickee321, post: 564027ā€]
Briliant stuff from Tottenham defensivly and fair play for grinding out a result .[/quote]
not quite the hammering you predicted either. I see 'Arry was even having a go at you in his post match interview.

[quote=ā€œmickee321, post: 564027ā€]
i said it before xmas when the draw was made an so it came to pass tonight that Milanā€™s most aged son Pippo Inzhagi was ultimatly to prove to be their biggest loss as they simply couldnt buy a goal out there.[/quote]

B)

that is it right there. midfield was the problem, and has been all season for Milan. Seedorf, whilst having a decent game last night, is well past his best. And Milan were missing too many of their main midfield to trouble Spurs in any shape, Pirlo, Ambrosini, and a still injured Prince Boateng. Shoving Seedorf back into the holding role at least gave Silva back his central defensive duties which helped. But Milans achilles heel all season has been the link between midfield and the strikers. The attacking midfielders have scored fook all and usually its left to a forward 3 out of Robinho/Pato/Ibra/Cassano to get the ball and create and score between themselves, with Boateng being the only other player in the squad to have more than 1 goal this season outside of the strikers. Flamini is another player who does damn all in a game other than a tackle here and there. His passing is of the safe variety and never much of an attacking threat, and his defensive duties are not that of what you need from a proper defensive holding midfielder, his contributions being far too sporadic.

They have resolved some of the problems with Van Bommel and Cassano, but they will need further players to get in the summer to contribute in a much better way to the midfield. If the strikers stay, and the defenders, and an upgrade on midfield, then they have the bones of a very good side. Merkel is a good player, and should have started last night. Boateng was not 100% and it showed.

Merkel certainly has a bit about him and Seedorf proved last night he can still impress in a restricted role. But Iā€™d agree on the limitations of Flamini. Thereā€™s enough there in attacking options (though Iā€™d be inclined to get rid of Robinho if last night was any indication of his composure in front of goal in important games) anyway but thatā€™s a weak midfield. Van Bommel and the return of the injured and suspended players will strengthen it a bit but Pirlo, Ambrosini, Gattuso can only be squad players at this stage Iā€™d say. They will still contribute but theyā€™re not going to play enough games on their own.

Spurs are the most boring and negative side to make it past the last 8 of Europeā€™s premier football competition since Steau Bucharest in 1989.

:angry:

Inter Milan 2010 :lol:

Spurs played the tie, and thats what winners do.

Hold the back page shocker:

A group of Yids give absolutely nothing awayā€¦

Nothing to see here.

I wonder will Spurs fans come up with a CL alternative to St Totteringhams day now that they have gone further in the competition than FC Taliban? :lol:

AC Milan 2003 were pretty boring

Milanā€™s 1994 mdfield was superb.

Donadoni, Desailly, Albertini, Boban
Savicevic

I thought that was a fascinating final myself. Canā€™t recall much of the lead up matches apart from two excellent matches between Real and Juve.

:blink:

a team with Pirlo, Nesta, Maldini, Shevchenko, Rui costa, Rivaldo, Serginho, Seedorf?

or are we basing it on the fact that the final was 0-0 and went to penalties? discounting the whole season prior to that?

Juve not winning in 2003 was a travesty

They were a boring team to watch that year - Ajax should have beaten them, the two semis with Inter were muck and Juve played any football that was to be played in the final. Rivaldo was finished after the World Cup in 2002.