Lyon’s is on the edge of the square and at most is only ever a yard inside the square, impossible to tell whether he entered the square before the ball, no ref in the world would give a square ball for it especially as it had absolutely no bearing on the phase of play…
How has it gne from being a clear square ball to a pretty tight call in the space of 24 hours…
I believe the stat was pretty much the opposite of last years final, if Bobby Ryan is to be believed.
I don’t how reliable they are to be honest but I do remember a long stretch of the second half where Tipp just couldn’t win a puckout. A tribute to their ability to build scores from the back I suppose. Also reflects the lack of direction in Kilkenny’s attack without Henry. They looked very one dimensional in the forwards. Very little movement either.
Yes but how many of them clean catches yielded results?
I’d say a lot of that might be down to Tipp opting to smother the catcher as soon as he landed or turned with the ball, almost Tyrone Gaelic football style if you will.
Ah runt they may well have converged on the player in possession very well, but no hurling team in the country lets the other team catch puckouts. That just wouldn’t happen. A combination of Tipp’s tenacity and Kilkenny’s lack of ideas I would say.
Ya, true I suppose, I wasn’t really saying they were letting them win the puck outs, just that winning them was of no huge benefit to Kilkenny such was the ferocity with which Tipp were tackling the ball carrier.
They were wired in fairness to them. Calm but absolutely driven. That they kept it going is the most impressive thing. Cork resisted for twenty minutes and then just collapsed. The ability to get goals was a lot to do with it. They dominated the play and were still outpointed. A one point lead at half-time was no reflection at all on their superiority in the first half.
That’s how Kilkenny demoralise teams a lot of the time. Teams go to war with them and still find themselves five or six points behind. As much as they were on top Tipp could still have gone in behind at half-time. That’s a sign of how tough Kilkenny are to live with.
What about John O’Briens attempted uppercut after he got up from the wrestle on the 6 yard box?
If he had connected he would have taken your mans head off :lol: ( I can’t remember who was involved - possibly Tyrell?)
Don’t remember that. Was anyone close to those rows that broke out under the cusack? They made great watching, although the big screen kept flicking to that centra ad whenever the camera switched to them. Tyrell was immense the fucker. What a leader. He’s a seriously rough bastard too. The biggest hitter in hurling at this stage.
Remember O’Brien and I think it was Tyrell got booked for an off the ball incident? About 20 minutes left. The two of them wrestled on the ground for a solid 30 seconds to a minute while the ball was up the other end of the field. O’Brien got to his feet and launched a haymaker of an upper cut but missed by about 5 feet.
Ya two decent rows on the cusack side, had a good view of them (which were both instigated by the Tullaroan native).
That was Dalton, Runty, and it must have went on for over a minute. What do you reckon? My relatively rubbish Davin Stand tickets were opportune for watching the high jinks in the full back line. Tyrell and Kelly were involved in a fair bit of digging at each other too but not the out and out wrestle that the other two engaged in.
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Don’t remember that. Was anyone close to those rows that broke out under the cusack? They made great watching, although the big screen kept flicking to that centra ad whenever the camera switched to them. Tyrell was immense the fucker. What a leader. He’s a seriously rough bastard too. The biggest hitter in hurling at this stage.
[/quote]Tyrell is a hardy fucker and a savage hurler aswell,didn’t the boys on commentary say something about him levelling Tommy Walsh in a recent club game or something?
Yeah, had a clear view of it myself from the Davin, it was Dalton alright. Right few scraps down that end of the field. There was one incident in the second half where Tommy Walsh was bulled into as he was following the path of the ball, Bonnar Maher I think it was. Ball went up the other end and Tommy gave Maher a few digs and got some back.
Pure out and out assault - it was great to see.
The second incident was below me. Walsh was like a flyweight boxer going mental. The play continued up in the corner of the Cusack and the Hill, more people were watching the fight.
Don’t know if anyone has mentioned Tyrell’s tackle on Brendan Maher after 17 minutes of the first half. It was easily as bad as his tackle last year, pure dirt. Full force frontal tackle right into the chest, he was lucky to stay on for it.
And Maher steadied himself and knocked it over the bar. 
Wasn’t as bad a last year’s but it was bad alright. That he wasn’t booked was a joke alright. Still, Callanan didn’t even get a free for this last year so Maher got a slightly better return.
One of the nice moments for me was O’Brien and Dalton chatting on the pitch afterwards for a minute or so when they’d actually been fighting on the turf for around the same period of time some twenty minutes earlier. Good to see the mutual respect between them after the battle they’d just engaged in and it was nice that they were afforded the opportunity to congratulate/commiserate with each other properly too.
Another thing I noticed was Paudric Maher really doesn’t like hitting the ball on the ball on his left hand side.
He came down the left sideline a couple of times but ended up losing the ball by trying to play it on his right side.
One of the best things about being at it I thought was watching the movement of the Tipp forwards. They were never in any orthodox shape at all and were set up in three lines of two a lot of the time. Constant rotation as well, rarely were the six of them in same position for anything more than 5 minutes. I remember Eamon O’Shea coming onto the field a load of times telling them to move more and more. Just savage to watch. They’re miles ahead of everybody on that front, Kilkenny included.
Tyrell is a beauty. He’s as dirty as fuck, but the way he does it in front of everyone seems to get him some kudos with opposition and referees for some strange reason. He goes after whoever is playing well on the other team, and often disregards his own marking duties to do it as well.
Savage hurler, there is something old school about him. In fact there was something old school about sunday, all the goals, the belting, a bit more first time hurling etc.
It really was great stuff from both teams.