Cill Chainnigh v Tiobraid Árann - 2010 All Ireland Hurling Final

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A YEAR LATE, BUT TIPPERARY FINALLY GET THEIR JUST DESSERTS!
Posted: 07 Sep 2010 02:24 PM PDT
Fair dues to Tipperary and Kilkenny for providing us with a marvellous All-Ireland Final for the second year in a row. And congratulations to the Tipp men for a terrific performance which has restored hope to the world of hurling pretenders. This was a compelling and complex encounter with so many subplots that presenting any kind of coherent analysis is a daunting task.

Our first observation is that, in terms of pure hurling, last year’s final was superior. This is indicated by the fact that there were a lot more plays in this year’s final – 371 in all compared with 314 in 2009. This indicates a game in which the exchanges were much tighter with lots of hooks, blocks, dispossessions, flicks, kicks and handpasses. This in turn meant that the average quality of play this year was significantly down on last year – from 2.41 to 2.27 in our rating system where each play receives a rating on a scale from 1 to 4.

In last year’s final, Tipperary had a superior play count (165/149) but Kilkenny made up for this with a superior average play quality (2.48/2.35). This year, the roles were reversed, with Kilkenny having marginally more plays (189/182) and Tipp shading the average play quality score (2.29/2.26). In other words, while both teams did better this year in terms of containing the opposition, Tipperary’s level of improvement was distinctly better than Kilkenny’s.

This is well reflected in the respective error counts. On this occasion we counted the number of errors committed by both sides, including instances of poor ball control, misdirected passes and strokes, underhit pucks, getting hooked/blocked, losing or giving away possession and bad misses from scoring attempts. On this count Tipperary had a clear advantage with 38 errors to Kilkenny’s 51, although not all of the latter can be attributed to pressure exerted by Tipperary players.

We will never know what effect Henry Shefflin’s early withdrawal had on the game’s ultimate outcome. It should be noted that Shefflin actually had a quiet enough game in last year’s final, and in fact played the ball as much in the twelve minutes he was on the field last Sunday as he did in the entire game in 2009. We are, of course, talking about the best player in modern hurling here, so his loss clearly was a major blow to Kilkenny. Apart from his own scoring ability, Shefflin has a key role as creative playmaker for Kilkenny, and this role in particular was badly needed as Kilkenny chased the game following Tipp’s two-goal burst early in the second half. After this, the Cats seemed to panic a bit, and began raining high balls into the Tipp goalmouth to very little effect. And, of course, had Henry himself been at the end of those balls things might have turned out differently.

Another major blow for Kilkenny was the relatively modest contribution of their other superstar, Tommy Walsh, in this year’s final. Last year Walsh amassed 51 quality points from 19 plays – this year the counts were just 26 points from 12 plays. While Patrick Maher played little enough ball himself, to the extent that he succeeded in curbing Walsh’s influence he deserves considerable credit.

And yet, for all that, Kilkenny did have the upper hand (albeit marginally) in the overall play count and this was reflected in their greater number of shots (and attempted shots) at goal (32/29). A key factor here was their domination of the puckout statistics. Normally at this level one expects the defending team to win a small majority of the opposition’s puckouts. Last Sunday, Kilkenny not only won a majority of their own puckouts (14/12) but they won no less than three quarters of Tipperary’s. In the second half, Tipperary won only one of their eleven puckouts.

That Kilkenny were not able to turn this major advantage in terms of primary possession into a winning score can be put down to excellent work on the part of the Tipperary defence, the massive effort put in by the Tipp midfield and half forwards to close down Kilkenny when they had possession, and Kilkenny’s own failure to turn shots into scores. Kilkenny’s poor rate of converting scoring chances into scores (especially compared with Tipperary) had already been highlighted before last Sunday’s game, even if this could partly be attributed to the ease with which the Cats were winning their games. In their two championship games prior to the All-Ireland final, Kilkenny had converted just 52% of scoring attempts into scores, compared with 64% for Tipperary. Last Sunday the gap wasn’t quite as big (59% to 54%) but it was still decisive, especially since four of the Tipp scores were goals.

There was a touch of irony about Tipperary’s two-goal salvo early in the second half which gave them the platform to go on to win the game, as this has been a staple part of the Kilkenny success recipe over the years (including last year’s final). This appeared to unnerve the Cats somewhat, for while they continued to create plenty of scoring chances for the remainder of the game, they hit some terrible wides and passed up several opportunities which on other occasions would probably have yielded goals.

Another irony of Tipperary’s victory was the relative contribution of both sets of substitutes. Last year Tipperary had a very threadbare bench indeed, whereas Martin Comerford, Michael Fennelly and TJ Reid all made decisive contributions when introduced late on by Kilkenny. This year the roles were reversed, with Seamus Callinan and David Young both having a big impact when they came on, and Benny Dunne and Seamus Hennessy both landing peaches of points in the closing stages.

Reflecting on last Sunday’s game in its immediate aftermath, we felt that, apart from Lar Corbett’s goals, the two key contributors on the field to Tipperary’s victory were Brendan and Pádraic Maher for Tipperary, and the statistics certainly bear this out, with both players scoring 46 quality points. Brendan Maher amassed no less than 31 of his points in a colossal first half whereas Pádraic was more consistent through the game, with 22 points in the first half and 24 in the second. A similarly consistent performer was Noel McGrath, who earned 19 points in the first half and 22 in the second for a total quality points score of 41. In this context we would also mention Mickie Cahill, whose quality points total of 31 was excellent for a corner back and who really came of age in this game.

Going into this game, we felt that the inexperience of Patrick Maher and Gearóid Ryan could prove fatal for Tipperary’s chances. At half time we felt even more convinced about this, as neither player had any impact on the game, having played the ball just seven times between them. However, fair dues to Liam Sheedy for persevering with them, with Ryan in particular turning in a sparkling second half, earning 23 quality points from nine plays against no less an opponent than JJ Delaney. Ryan’s peach of a long pass to Noel McGrath to set up Lar Corbett’s second goal was one of the most memorable plays of the day.

Remarkably, man-of-the-match Lar Corbett only played the ball six times (for 16 quality points) during the course of the game, but with three of these finding the net (shades of Gorgeous Gus in the Victor comic of old!) who in Tipperary is complaining? In last year’s final, Corbett played the ball 16 times for 44 quality points only to end up on the losing side. Such are the ironies of sport!

We were surprised that Brian Cody dropped Michael Rice – Kilkenny’s key man in last year’s championship – for this year’s final, and Rice will no doubt derive some consolation from the fact that, despite missing 13 minutes of the game, he still ended up at the top of his team’s quality points register with 43, just ahead of Michael Fennelly, who topped off a great championship for him with a massive display which garnered 42 points.
Kilkenny’s other main contributors were JJ Delaney and Eoin Larkin (who had a marvellous tussle with Declan Fanning), both on 37 points, Jackie Tyrrell (who provided wonderful leadership for the Cats in the second half) on 35 and John Tennyson (32) who put in a great performance throughout considering he had just returned from a bad injury.

As in the 2009 final, Kilkenny had major problems among their forwards last Sunday. Last year, Aidan Fogarty played the ball just twice before being hauled ashore after 51 minutes. This year he lasted just three minutes longer with five mainly ineffectual plays to his name. Last year Eddie Brennan lasted the entire game despite playing the ball only seven times, but then three of those plays yielded points. This year he made just five plays, with no scores, before being substituted after 51minutes. Scoring four points did not save TJ Reid the indignity of being substituted after 63 minutes, Brian Cody obviously being more impressed by Reid’s error count of eight (by far the highest of any player on the two sides) and Pádraic Maher’s growing influence as the game moved towards its conclusion.

This was a game which, on the general balance of play, could have gone either way. Unlike last year, Tipperary were not clearly the better team, despite what most media pundits have suggested. But they played with great positivity, took their chances when they arose and got their just desserts, having been denied last year mainly by poor refereeing.

At the same time, we salute Kilkenny and the standards they set over the last four years. However, last year there were definite signs of a weakening of their formidable edifice. In the final paragraph of our report on the 2009 final, we wrote: “…last Sunday may have been a turning point in the life cycle of this Kilkenny team which, for once, was unable to impose itself physically on the opposition … Tipperary’s inexperience was a key factor in their defeat. If they can learn the appropriate lessons, and perhaps find another scoring forward, their day cannot be that far away”. In last year’s final, just five Tipperary players got on the scoreboard; this year it was double that number. And verily, their day has come. Enjoy!

Play statistics (quality points in brackets):

Kilkenny 189 (428): Ryan PJ 5 (11); Dalton J 11 (28); Hickey N 6 (11); Tyrrell J 16 (35); Walsh T 12 (26); Tennyson J 15 (32); Delaney JJ 13 (37); Fitzpatrick J 11 (21); Fennelly M 19 (42); Reid TJ 11 (24); Shefflin H 7 (13); Larkin E 15 (37); Brennan E 5 (9); Power R 10 (26); Fogarty A 5 (8); Rice M 18 (43); Lyng D 4 (10); Comerford M 1 (2); Mulhall J 3 (7); Hogan R 2 (6);

Tipperary 182 (414): Cummins B 7 (11); Stapleton P 10 (19); Curran P 9 (20); Cahill M 12 (31); Fanning D 15 (29); O’Mahony C 10 (22); Maher Padraic 20 (46); Maher B 17 (46); McGrath S 13 (26); Ryan G 12 (31); Maher Patrick 8 (18); O’Brien J 9 (14); McGrath N 19 (41); Kelly E 9 (17); Corbett L 6 (14); Callinan S 4 (13); Young D 5 (11); Dunne B 1 (4); Hennessy S (4); O’Brien C no plays.

Well that didn’t go so well for me :blink: Beidh la eile :stuck_out_tongue:

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Can’t agree at all Sid. I always thought Cody picked his best team and if Henry Shefflin was only 80-90% fit then I’d imagine he’d still be in Cody’s first 15. Certainly to my, albeit untrained and inexperienced eye he didn’t appear to be moving too badly and laid on a smashing pass for open up the defence for TJ Reid. The rain didn’t upset his knee, he made a balls of trying to gain possession and it seemed the knee pinged on him and that was it.

I’d profer that the ligament was partially torn and maybe yesterday he completely did it. It’s always possible to keep yourself a little less than full tilt in training but in a game like yesterday’s, where every movement was a test of every sinew in the body the knee was found wanting.

Tennyson more than justified his inclusion. Cody can be incredibly loyal at times, he stuck by Ryall in 03 when Setanta was doing untold damage and it looked like it was going to cost them dearly. Hickey would surely be one of Cody’s most trusted warriors so it was no surprise to see him left on when he could easily have been switched, with Tennyson going in there Ryall coming in at 6.

[b]What a fcking game though. That’s quite a trilogy now with last year’s League and All Ireland finals and yesterday’s fare. The 1 in a row merchants might sit back and enjoy themselves like after 91 and 01. I wonder will they be able to replicate that hunger next year? I hope so because organised violence like yesterday is the way forward. As easy as it is to utterly detest the turnip munching, hang sandwich eating, tae swilling boggers that follow Tipperary, they do bring a great atmosphere, colour and indeed rural naiveté to the games, unlike say those boring cunts in Galway who are the MBB of hurling supporters. And the hurlers seem like thoroughly likeable individuals. Especially Larry Corbett. What a fcking legend.

I thought some of Tipperary’s scoring was immense. John O’Brien was quiet but clipped over 2 superb scores when he did actually get his hands on the ball. Brendan Maher’s point after getting upended by Tyrell was magnificiently defiant. He’s some hurler that lad. Corbett’s 3 goals were superb. McGrath’s win and handpass was reminiscent of Bandage back in his hey day as a devastatingly creative 11 or 14. But the run by Corbett was what made it, he had to take off long before the ball arrived. Poetic so it was.[/b][/quote]
Admins, lock this thread, it has all been said. Ah, lovely. :pint: :guns: :clap: :clap: :pint: :pint: :pint:

An Moltóir’s analysis can be disregarded until he ceases referring to himself in the plural and explains his ‘quality points scoring system’.

Glad to see your enjoying this one Mick, i have a few interesting voice messages from my Tipp “friends”, the phrase “Cork bollix” is repeated quite a bit. :smiley:

1 of those shimmozzles was fair fuckin funny, Kelly and (Tommy?) booked after it. Tipp tormented the fuck out of Tommy last Sunday, he doesn’t like it up him. A wasp of a hurler. One of the greatest ever. And a cunt to his fingertips.

http://www.inpho.ie/cache/inpho/82/3b/90/76683c12c07838cf516e159e48d6be0af66e4e1f4e.jpg

It is impossible to tell whether he is in the smll square before the ball if you watch the incident in slow motion, let along in real time…But you would still have given the square ball :rolleyes: , like I said earlier no ref in the world would have given it as a square ball, be it a junior b match or an All Ireland final

WTF are you two on about?

Thanks Kev, I am on a high and don’t know when I will come down. Possibly our greatest Croke Park win, a day of days. I’ve met several winning members of our teams back to the early 60s since 5pm on Sunday, and to a man they all said it was our best ever. It was all about beating this Kilkenny team, the blue bloods of the game of the Gods. And we done it as underdogs, playing well for the full game, in the greatest atmosphere Croker has ever witnessed. We quitened Tommy. Eoin Kelly, what a Tipp man, what a player and leader, for him to accept the Liam McCarthy on our behalf, fuck it. The class in defeat of Kilkenny. The spontaneous ovation for King Henry. The display of Brendan Maher, the true hurler of the year. Lar, I was his biggest critic for a few years, Lar will you please forgive me? Padraig Maher, beast, savage, warrior. Paul Curran waiting 8 years for his first Celtic Cross, that sound Gurtagarry man John O’Brien waiting 9 years for his 2nd, with Cummins, Lar, Paul and Eoin. He’s been subbed so many times and persisted. I just wished the cunt wasn’t motm every time he plays against Nenagh Eire Og, twice in county finals :smiley: Noel McGrath, Brendan and Padraig can go on to be as good as JJ, Tommy and Henry have been for KK, if we can manage our expectations and talent, that is. But we will savour this one, some crowd in Tom Semple’s field next Saturday night Id say.
Oh, and Liam Sheedy is an alright sort, thought he was relatively composed last Sunday. Check out the footage of him immediately after he shook Cody’s hand, fair fuckin funny :lol:
Anyway :clap: :pint: :pint: :pint: :pint: :clap: :clap:

The square ball…that wasn’t a square ball, but was kind of square, but no ref would give it.

According to his scoring mechanism Michael Fennelly was 3 times more effective or 3 times more quality that Lar Corbett :huh:

The Rattler is an alright sort.

Sunday was hard eneogh to stomach,being that close to history and not finishing the job is an awful pity but these Kilkenny hurlers owe us nothing after a Decade of great Years and were simply beaten by a fair bit better team on Sunday.

Only back to work Today,im a shook man after four days beer.

you can pick holes in any statistical analysis, you might argue that Lar Corbett’s contribution had a far bigger contribution on the game than his total merits(which it did) but going by his award system he awarded him as much as is allowed…4 points for each goal and 2 poinst for his other two touchs…Also presume he has O’Brien and Young mixed up, wouldn’t argue too much with it TBH, most would have agreed that Fennelly, Tyrell, Dalton, JJ and Larkin were kilkenny’s best performers and that its seen in the stats, likewise with Tipp and the two mahers, Noel McGrath and Gearoid Ryan’s second half performance, also looking at the stats tipp seemed to have plenty of solid performers in the likes of Cahill, Fanning, Shane McGrath, Eoin Kelly, Curran etc compared to Hickey, Brennan’s and Fogarty’s contribution which is fairly spot on…

Dont think it means fennelly was more effective either Lar got 14 points from 5 plays while Fennelly got 41 from 19… 14/5=2.9 41/19=2.1

It’s a load of bollox, Puke. 98/7 = 14 and 103/ 6 = 17.16.

What the fuck is all this about???,somebodys just after ringing from a rugby forum looking for thier stats back,they dont belong here anyway.

What are you on about, every I/C side would have form of statistical anaylsis of their performances be it hurling or football…This is the done thing, even at club level it is used, although not to this level…it might not be done the same was an moltoir does it but it is part and parcel of the game now…Thanks for illustrating my point from the croke park fencing thread about lads involved in the gaa being afraid and against of change

Statistical analysis :lol: :lol: ,its hurling not accountancy for fuck sake.Ill give you some statistical analysis about SUnday,Cha,Eddie Brennan,Taggy,Hickey and PJ Ryan all hurled terribly compared to thier ability on Sunday,had they all hurled well we might have won,as it was we couldnt win,no need for any clipboards or laptops to figure that one out

I’d be with Johnny Giles on this sort of thing, these type of statistics can be misleading. Statistics obviously have an important place but they should only be complementary to your own judgement of a match.

Would agree with that and that is more often than not how they are used…I remember Mike Mac was rather cutting about an unnamed Clare player* that somehow managed to be rated as -2 in the analysis of the Galway match last year

*tony griffin