[quote=âdodgy-keeper, post: 838313, member: 1552â]Shane OâDonnell looks like he should be in One Direction.
He could go on the pull with Harry Styles and co.[/quote]
If that wasnât enough the added pair of plane tickets in the pocket will ensure every fanny in the place will be thrown at him.
Shane OâDonnell is 19, and no matter what he ever does in his career after this, heâll always be pigeonholed as that kid who came in at the last minute and got a hat-trick in an All-Ireland final. Heâs the Gary Coleman of hurling.
[quote=âdodgy-keeper, post: 838313, member: 1552â]Shane OâDonnell looks like he should be in One Direction.
He could go on the pull with Harry Styles and co.[/quote]
Heâs like a man who might need an extra mickey in the next couple of months.
Seems to have gotten lost in the euphoria of a great match⌠but the refâs performance was awful, for both sides. Luckly both teams, and the game itself rose above it.
Agree. He was worse for Clare.
He could easily score another hat-trick in 20 minutes tonight if he wants to.
Iâll have you clamped by Tuesday when I sit through the match again three times for my refereeâs analysis.
Agreed. He was utterly out of his depth. He really rode Clare at the end of the first half. Moving the 21 yard frees back twice for Cork could have been match changers though.
Where does that put Dublin?
Thatâs the type they are. No class
In the final if not for an incorrect sending off.
Seasons over fella. But he was correctly sent off. His stupidity may have cost Dublin a chance, but weâll never know. Result is all that matters in knock out championship. The format didnât help ye but looking back Limerick hadnât a chance after the over the top reaction to winning Munster.
Cork and Clare had a high standard because they got a run of games. Itâs actually difficult to judge anyone other than them and arguably Galway based on the championship format. The games have been great, but the competition itself if you stand back and take away the emotion of it is crap.
If hurling really wants to grow properly it has to change.
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 838387, member: 273â]Seasons over fella. But he was correctly sent off. His stupidity may have cost Dublin a chance, but weâll never know. Result is all that matters in knock out championship. The format didnât help ye but looking back Limerick hadnât a chance after the over the top reaction to winning Munster.
Cork and Clare had a high standard because they got a run of games. Itâs actually difficult to judge anyone other than them and arguably Galway based on the championship format. The games have been great, but the competition itself if you stand back and take away the emotion of it is crap.
If hurling really wants to grow properly it has to change.[/quote]
Agree on the ratings and the lack of games was bad for limerick. As I said already I hope we are drawn in the quarter and not the semi for Munster next season. The structure of the competition is far from perfect and probably never will be. But this season has been absolutely fantastic. The best in years, maybe ever. It was a joy to watch. Well done to cork for playing a massive part in it.
Of course it can be better. I donât see the difference in Cork, Tipp, Clare, Waterford an Limerick having belter games in games that matter called the All Ireland Championship as opposed to games that kinda matter,but not really, in a competition called Munster. Talking about these comps being sacred if laughable with Antrim and Galway in Leinster.
By all means play the provincials (as season starting comps), but scrap the league and build a proper All Ireland competition. The farce that is the Clare hurling championship is very unfair.
I actually defended initially his sending off both here and on Reservoir Dubs, as Iâm such a non-partisan analyst of the game, but that was under an inadvertent assumption and misapprehension of what the rule was, and I took the father and mother of a clamping on Reservoir Dubs when I was quoted the actual rule.
A shoulder to the chest is not a yellow card offence when you do it the first time, only when you repeat it.
Therefore OâDwyer was incorrectly sent off. He should not have got a yellow card for his first foul.
As an example of that rule, Jackie Tyrrell was not yellow carded for his attempts to put Seamus Callanan and Brendan Maher into cardiac arrest in the 2009 and 2010 finals respectively as it was his first such offence in both finals.
5.28 (a) To charge an opponent in the back or to the
front.
(b) To charge an opponent unless:-
(i) he is in possession of the ball, or
(ii) he is playing the ball, or45
(iii) both players are moving in the direction of
the ball to play it.
Š To charge an opponent for the purpose of
giving an advantage to a team-mate.
PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Free puck from where foul occurred,
except as provided under Exceptions of
Rule 2.2.
(ii) Caution offender for committing any of
the above fouls a second time; order
off for a further repetition or for other
cautionable foul.
There is a rule where ârough playâ can be cited to yellow card a player, but if Tyrrellâs fouls didnât fall under that, OâDwyerâs certainly didnât.
Jaysus Kev, please allow TWCB or Fitzy to comment on the hurling final replay from Oz with unblinkered eyes.
Youâre making a show of yourself.
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 838395, member: 273â]Of course it can be better. I donât see the difference in Cork, Tipp, Clare, Waterford an Limerick having belter games in games that matter called the All Ireland Championship as opposed to games that kinda matter,but not really, in a competition called Munster. Talking about these comps being sacred if laughable with Antrim and Galway in Leinster.
By all means play the provincials (as season starting comps), but scrap the league and build a proper All Ireland competition. The farce that is the Clare hurling championship is very unfair.[/quote]
Why is the Clare hurling championship unfair? It incorporates a round robin system of four groups of four with the top eight advancing to the quarter-finals. I would have thought you would have found that a very fair system.
Whatever is good for Pat Fitz is good for Clare.
Fuck it taâ hell, theyâll abandon the championship altogether, rightly so.
A month of drink and carousing and roll on 2014.
Of course it can be better. I donât see the difference in Cork, Tipp, Clare, Waterford an Limerick having belter games in games that matter called the All Ireland Championship as opposed to games that kinda matter,but not really, in a competition called Munster. Talking about these comps being sacred if laughable with Antrim and Galway in Leinster.
By all means play the provincials (as season starting comps), but scrap the league and build a proper All Ireland competition. The farce that is the Clare hurling championship is very unfair.
[quote=âSidney, post: 838401, member: 183â]I actually defended initially his sending off both here and on Reservoir Dubs, as Iâm such a non-partisan analyst of the game, but that was under an inadvertent assumption and misapprehension of what the rule was, and I took the father and mother of a clamping on Reservoir Dubs when I was quoted the actual rule.
A shoulder to the chest is not a yellow card offence when you do it the first time, only when you repeat it.
Therefore OâDwyer was incorrectly sent off. He should not have got a yellow card for his first foul.
As an example of that rule, Jackie Tyrrell was not yellow carded for his attempts to put Seamus Callanan and Brendan Maher into cardiac arrest in the 2009 and 2010 finals respectively as it was his first such offence in both finals.
There is a rule where ârough playâ can be cited to yellow card a player, but if Tyrrellâs fouls didnât fall under that, OâDwyerâs certainly didnât.[/quote]
Down to the opinion of the refs. Rough play allows for yellow cards, this his sending off was correct in the opinion of the ref.
You can quote whatever you want, but ROD knew the score after the first yellow. IF he canât keep his discipline or his manager canât coach it out of him or take him off then thatâs Dublins tough shit. Coaching and disciple are part of the game
Clare and Cork had players yellow carded thru-out the season. Itâs a game changer for the player themselves. Some harsh some not, but no 2nd yellows to leave their team in trouble. Shane O Neill is a perfect example, going on to have blunders after yellows. Dave McInerney as well. And they play in much more restrintive positions than that clown O Dwyer.
Case closed.
Classic case of misinterpreting what I said, which you often do (conveniently most if the time).
Itâs unfair in all the club players who have a ridiculously cramped championship now or possible a change from round robin to pure knock out (not sure how that played out). All caused by the ridiculous Senior hurling Championship.