1.3 A player may run with the ball balanced on or
hopping on his hurley.
1.4 A player may catch the ball, play it on his
hurley, and bring it back into his hand once. A
player who has not caught the ball may play it
from the hurley into his hand twice.
[quote=“Sidney, post: 838968, member: 183”]Honan threw it in. Should not have stood.
O’Donnell touched the ball on his hurley with the ball still in his hand for his third goal. This is another area where the rules are too vague.
Every week, grey areas are appearing which are not dealt with adequately by the rules.[/quote]
I havent seen enough of a reply on Honans one alright, but I thought it bounced off his knee?
And I thought RTE showed a super slowmo of O’Donnells third where the ball came out of his hand brushed off the hurl, and back into his ahnd again. At first I thought he didnt release it, but one of the replays, could have been after the game, seemed to clarify it for me anyway.
I think O Donnell played the ball, however briefly, re Honan’s, I’ve seen it over and over, and still can’t be sure. Benefit of the doubt to the attacking player imo, both goals stand.
[quote=“Gman, post: 838970, member: 112”]I havent seen enough of a reply on Honans one alright, but I thought it bounced off his knee?
And I thought RTE showed a super slowmo of O’Donnells third where the ball came out of his hand brushed off the hurl, and back into his ahnd again. At first I thought he didnt release it, but one of the replays, could have been after the game, seemed to clarify it for me anyway.[/quote]
Agree I thought it left his hand slightly to touch off the hurl, pretty common now.
[quote=“Sidney, post: 838946, member: 183”]Tactics are more valuable in football for the obvious reason that the ball doesn’t move as fast and players have to be nearer the goal to score, and because it’s a less skilful game. A defensive system like Donegal play will always have a chance of working in football. Hurling will always be a game based largely on individual battles because the ball moves faster and players can score from anywhere up to 70 metres out.
Also just because a forward is good (McGrath) does not automatically mean his opponent (O’Sullivan) has had a poor match.[/quote]
Absolutely agree with all that. The speed of hurling will always mean skill and one-on-one battles are of huge importance. You can create situations where you get an extra man or two to where the ball is, but if the opposition moves it fast you can still be exposed. I felt Cork played into Clare’s hands a lot on Saturday, making the Clare pressure game effective by bring the ball into the tackle a lot. It is surely something they saw from up in the stand and is a reasonably easy fix at half time.
Like was suggested here during the week, by moving Horgan we actually lost a lot of his influence which while sparse was effective.
Has anybody worked out yet what constitutes a “strike” from a free in hurling? From a 20 metre free, the goalkeeper and defenders are supposed to be 20 metres away from where the ball is “struck”. If a “strike” is defined as the actual shot rather than the initial lift, for Anthony Nash’s frees, the goalkeeper and defender would have to be 7 metres behind the goal line to be in a legal position, given that Nash took his shots from the 13 metre line.
Was watching the game back on TV on Saturday night and at one stage midway through the first half Canning and Duignan incorrectly informed the viewers which Cork backs were picking up the Clare forwards. No wonder people watching on TV often end up making inaccurate conclusions about individual battles won etc.
And at the other end Cork’s forwards were lined up in a 3-1-2 with a traditional half forward line of Harnedy-McCarthy-Lehane, Horgan playing centrally around the D around 30 yards out and then Cronin and O’Farrell inside.
Harnedy likes to make crossfield darts inside (like for Cork’s opening point) so it made for a fair bit of congestion in the middle, especially with them going long to Cronin a lot and the ball breaking down in that central area.
Clare had Dillon and McInerney on Cronin and O’Farrell respectively with Pat O’Connor on Horgan. O’Donovan followed Lehane out and Bugler moved inside on McCarthy with Conor Ryan on Harnedy again.
I was interested to see Clare changing the match ups in the second half when O’Farrell was called ashore.
20m rule is for the free takers advantage. Rule says you can strike free from ground or lift and strike so the lift is not a strike. Rules need purposive interpretation. What Nash does is tricky and he messed up second one. There is no issue with rules and discussions around changing them based on one player developing a skill seems mad.
Paddy Kenny was doing the same as Nash in the 1950s (apparently), don’t know what all the furore is about. The further he throws it ahead of himself, the more likely he will have a mis-hit or a poor lift.