Clare v Cork - GAA Hurling All Ireland Senior Championship 2013 Final - Replay

Will the rule apply to all frees? Will you have to put the ball a few metres back from where ref gives the free even out the pitch?

You’re actually thicker than those Galway cunts and that’s saying something. By all means enforce the distance but number of guys on the line needs to be reduced to 2or even 1. Or else, as you have noted, the scoring rate will reduce and fouling will be encouraged.

Christ above but there’s some shit being spoken here. DJ was gaining about 10 yards from his penalties for years but seeing as much of that was before 95 a lot of the Clare lads wouldn’t realise it.

I haven’t bothered reading the rules text but does it apply just for penalties or for all 21 yard frees?

Whatever about player welfare the rule had to be amended to remove the ambiguity from it.

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Another thing that display’s the total lack of knowledge of the game of hurling on here…there is no such thing as a goal keeper’s hurl under rule. The rule merely states that a hurley may not be more than 13cm at it’s widest point. So in theory any player could play with a stick with a wide bas.

Clare and Tipp seemed to start using bigger sticks in the 90s compared to say Wexford and Kilkenny. Presume it was to over come a lack of skill at the time. Seems to have become the norm now.

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I see where Collins’ da has gotten him to ruin his hurling for the coming year.

Isn’t that what auld fellas are for?

[quote=“Appendage, post: 884823, member: 11”]Another thing that display’s the total lack of knowledge of the game of hurling on here…there is no such thing as a goal keeper’s hurl under rule. The rule merely states that a hurley may not be more than 13cm at it’s widest point. So in theory any player could play with a stick with a wide bas.

Clare and Tipp seemed to start using bigger sticks in the 90s compared to say Wexford and Kilkenny. Presume it was to over come a lack of skill at the time. Seems to have become the norm now.[/quote]

You are dealing mostly with guys who never played adult hurling and/or Clare people who think they invented hurling.

The Newtown Hurley’s became very popular at the start of the 2000’s. But they stopped using irish ash and they went to shit. They were a beautiful Hurley

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As the GAA director of games development, Pat Daly told the Irish Independent:"It’s now proposed to state clearly that the ball can be no closer than 20 metres from the goal-line when it’s struck. It will be up to the striker to decide how much further out he wants to place the ball in order to get momentum from tossing it forward but the strike must be made no closer than the 20-metre line.

Former goalkeeper Christy O’Connor joined us on the line to debate the issue with our own Diarmuid ‘Gizzy’ Lyng.

“There’s a couple of ways at looking at it. The reality is it is probably down to [Cork goalkeeper] Anthony Nash and he’s probably being punished for the power he has in his strike. If a shot like that hit somebody into the neck, they’re effectively dead,” said O’Connor. "

But the other point of it is - and Nash made the point himself - this could possibly lead to more cynicism in that if guys go straight through on goals, maybe you’re better off to pull him down because he has less of a chance to score. But the reality is Joe Canning is the only comparable player to Nash who has that power. In one sense it is a safety issue but on the other side are you punishing Nash for his technique and his ability?"

Gizzy believes the new change means it will be nearly impossible for players to score penalties with more reaction time for goalkeepers.

The debate then touched on the issue of wearing cups in the GAA to protect player’s appendages to borrow Ger’s term.

“If [the sliothar] hits you in the wrong area, maybe forget about having a family down the line,” said O’Connor. “Alot of keepers don’t wear the cup. Some of them just feel that it’s awkward. I got a belt when I was a minor in that area and it was probably the worst pain you’re ever going to experience. If that hits you in the neck - like a Nash bullet - you could literally be killed and that’s where the GAA are coming from. There is a safety issue here.”

O’Connor and Gizzy also discussed the role of Congress when it comes to rule changes, how they are implemented and what happens if for example the black card fails in football which you can listen to via the podcast.

[quote=“Appendage, post: 884823, member: 11”]Another thing that display’s the total lack of knowledge of the game of hurling on here…there is no such thing as a goal keeper’s hurl under rule. The rule merely states that a hurley may not be more than 13cm at it’s widest point. So in theory any player could play with a stick with a wide bas.

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nice one, you got Wexford and Kilkenny in same sentence and it relates to hurling…that gave me a giggle

The GAA are the dumbest organization in sport.

Is there any sport that changes its rules as regularly as the GAA

Lads cannot stop tinkering.

No surprise that it’s the Clare crowd cheering on this rule change.

  1. They never had a player who could score a goal from a twenty one yard free
    2 from the days of Lohan on, a Clare full backs idea of defending was to foul the forward.

So it’s win win for Clare

at least you’ve moved off your standard response from yesterday…

At least it will spare us every keeper in the country coming up for the frees next year á la the 45’s in football.

Could they not just limit it in terms of steps, ie strike not more than one step beyond where the ball was placed. They should be looking at how much space is stolen by players kicking frees from the hand in football.

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Result: it’ll now be almost impossible to score a goal from a “20 metre free”, and fouling will be encouraged. Those four metres will make all the difference.[/quote]

on the other hand it might discourage 6 ft 3 inch men who never get knocked when playing out the field getting an attack of the wobbles every time they get withing 20 yards of the goals

nothing wrong with it if it adds drama and excitement and creates a spectacle

will they ban keepers kicking 45s in football for “slowing the game down”

That is far harder to implement for a referee than the current proposal. While I commend Nash for working on the skill I do find it strange that people seem to be overlooking the fact that a lad who is rising the ball on the 20 metre line and hitting it on the 14 after taking 4 or 5 steps is somewhat against the spirit of the game and as you say is similar to lads stealing yards when taking fress out of hand. It is a great spectacle but the fact that most, referees, players, commentators and fans alike did not know what the correct rule was and the fact that it was open to so much ambiguity then the GAA are dead right to change it to remove the ambiguity.