King Henry of Galway (Part 1) 👑

[Fagan_ODowd]

@Sidney

@Bandage

Who are these ringleaders? Name names here, please. Surely David Collins is one of them after his bizarrely upbeat interview on The Sunday Game on the night of the final. He seemed delighted they lost given he came on and scored a couple of points. Vindication.

I thought Joe Canning sounded extremely subdued and nervous during his interview on Off The Ball last Wednesday. Didn’t mention Anthony Cunningham’s name once although he mentioned Eugene Cloonan’s.

Andy Smith also made strange comments regarding Cunningham’s “See you in September” comments to Cody after the Leinster final and I’d say is seething at being taken off as captain in the All-Ireland final.

I’m also surmising that there’s a Portumna-St. Thomas club rivalry simmering away underneath driving it.

“I thought”, “I’d say”, “I’m also surmising”.

That’s definitive so.

[Sidney]

@Fagan_ODowd

“I thought”, “I’d say”, “I’m also surmising”.

That’s definitive so.

Yes, it was very definitely non-definitive and deliberately speculative. The “I thought”, “I’d say” and the “I’m also surmising” are a bit of a giveaway there.

Well observed.

[maroonandwhite]

He must unite the clans, not divide them further. If cloonan doesn’t come back they are fucked anyway. Not sure how many times i have to repeat this. He was the main man.

[Fagan_ODowd]

@Sidney

@Fagan_ODowd

“I thought”, “I’d say”, “I’m also surmising”.

That’s definitive so.

Yes, it was very definitely non-definitive and deliberately speculative. The “I thought”, “I’d say” and the “I’m also surmising” are a bit of a giveaway there.

Well observed.

Cheers pal. If only there was a well observed rating.

[Bandage]

You can tell Cyril Farrell is very hurt by what’s going on by his Six One News interview. How could they do this to Cyril?

[GeoffreyBoycott]

@Sidney

The Galway players have picked the wrong fight here.

Public perception is everything in these sorts of struggles.

So Fidelma Healy Eames is shocked.

Public perception has nothing to do with it. Public perception wasn’t exactly behind the players in Kilkenny, Cork and Tipperary when they got rid of Kevin Fennelly in 1998, Bertie Og Murphy in 2002 and Babs in 2007 but their successors all delivered an Ireland fairly pronto.

Cunningham stood there like a statue for the second half of the All Ireland Final as Galway threw away a winning position to a distinctly non-vintage Kilkenny side. It was the same in the semi final, he stood there for an hour looking at Seamus Callinan destroying young Mannion but they just about got away with it there. It was the same in the 2012 drawn final as Galway blew a 7 point lead. He may have many virtues but the shrewdness and guile needed on the sideline to win an All Ireland doesn’t appear to be one of them.

After four years its not unreasonable for players to seek a change of direction.

[Fagan_ODowd]

@GeoffreyBoycott

@Sidney

The Galway players have picked the wrong fight here.

Public perception is everything in these sorts of struggles.

So Fidelma Healy Eames is shocked.

Public perception has nothing to do with it. Public perception wasn’t exactly behind the players in Kilkenny, Cork and Tipperary when they got rid of Kevin Fennelly in 1998, Bertie Og Murphy in 2002 and Babs in 2007 but their successors all delivered an Ireland fairly pronto.

Cunningham stood there like a statue for the second half of the All Ireland Final as Galway threw away a winning position to a distinctly non-vintage Kilkenny side. It was the same in the semi final, he stood there for an hour looking at Seamus Callinan destroying young Mannion but they just about got away with it there. It was the same in the 2012 drawn final as Galway blew a 7 point lead. He may have many virtues but the shrewdness and guile needed on the sideline to win an All Ireland doesn’t appear to be one of them.

After four years its not unreasonable for players to seek a change of direction.

[ironmoth]

@Sidney

I thought Joe Canning sounded extremely subdued and nervous during his interview on Off The Ball last Wednesday. Didn’t mention Anthony Cunningham’s name once although he mentioned Eugene Cloonan’s.

Very noticeable. And unfortunate. FFS. Davy Fitz survives, and the long knives are out for Cunningham.

[ironmoth]

Cloonan is unproven at this level, but he certainly seems to have developed a rapport with the team. I was always a huge fan of his. Key man for Athenry and often beat teams on his own. He was a ruthless bastard on the pitch, and if he could bury a team he wouldn’t need to be asked twice.

This whole debacle has me mithered.

[carryharry]

@Sidney

@Fagan_ODowd

on the other hand in every one of these cases it is possible to see a manager who has deluded himself into believing that he is best placed to deliver an All Ireland. In this case against the available evidence.

The evidence would firmly suggest that Cunningham was better placed to deliver an All-Ireland to Galway than anybody they’ll get in.

No it doesn’t. He was involved is the U21 Hurling Final massacre in 2010 also which people are conveniently forgetting too. His time is up.

[iron_mike]

God himself wouldnt have bate Tipp that day

[carryharry]

The scoreline doesn’t help your argument in his defense.

Tipp 5-22 Galway 0-12

[iron_mike]

This smacks of Limerick 2010 if Galway arent careful it will take them 5 years to get over it. Galway at club level is a slaughterhouse anyway. The intercounty scene will fast become an abbatoir if its not sorted. Looking at it from the outside his position is untenable. Its a clusterfuck for Leinster too as between them Offaly, Wexford and Laois dont have 15 hurlers to challenge Kilkenny

[carryharry]

[iron_mike]

Im not defending him Harry. Just saying that after ye’re win the week before the whole county was on a high and there was no way ye were going to be denied. What was there that night 25k plus?

[carryharry]

@TheUlteriorMotive

how far are we away from a player manager in GAA - seems a natural evolution

The selector system is a joke - mostly there for the bus trips and a sop to clubs

You fucking goul.

[carryharry]

Tipp had home advantage granted, the County was on a high etc etc.

But a fairly well equipped Galway team lay down & took it up the hole without so much as a whimper. AC managed that team, he was responsible for the hammering that night. People bleated on about Galway fans leaving the team down by not travelling etc but that was bullshit. AC did not have his team prepared mentally & he gets cut a serious amount of slack for that result.

I have nothing against him, but as pointed out he stood standing as Callanan went to town in the Semi Final. In the second half of the AI he again did a wonderful impression of a dopey rabbit caught in headlights waiting to be mowed down. Also, people raved about Hartes father busting into the dressing room at HT which seems a wild story now. But the real story was taking the chap off so early when he was hurling ok.

[ironmoth]

Team is lacking leaders. The likes of Canning, Smith, Collins were all on the pitch when the tide started turning. I didn’t see any of them calling out orders to steady the ship.

[myboyblue]

@iron_mike

This smacks of Limerick 2010 if Galway arent careful it will take them 5 years to get over it. Galway at club level is a slaughterhouse anyway. The intercounty scene will fast become an abbatoir if its not sorted. Looking at it from the outside his position is untenable. Its a clusterfuck for Leinster too as between them Offaly, Wexford and Laois dont have 15 hurlers to challenge Kilkenny

Yes, and Munster is doing a fine job of challenging them too

[iron_mike]

Im not disagreeing with that either. The best 15 in Munster wouldnt stop them either