Confederations Cup 2009

I think there was a post or two about Spain-New Zealand on another thread but probably worth a thread of its own as most of us will be watching it for a bit of live football as much as anything else.

Torres and Spain demonstrating their class here, Torres has scored an 11 minute hat trick and Spain are generally coasting it, with Fabregas and Villa also prominent. I heard somewhere that United might look for Torres now with their money - he’s surely the obvious transfer target for them.

The Sith Ifricans are mad for Torres as well by the looks of things.

How did NZ qualify for this or is it by invitation? They seem shockingly bad. Apparently they’ve been weakened by Ryan Nelson being out injured. Are they missing anyone else?

Confederations Cup

NZ are off to a flyer anyway, 0-4 down to Espana at half time. Torres got a hat trick in 11 mins, ridiculously easy.

Dunph, delete this thread.

Sonofabitch, never noticed Mac’s thread.

My apologies.

Apparently RTE are skint.

Then why in the name of Jaysus are they showing this meaningless tournament? George was on this evening explaining that he had a two hour drive from the airport to the stadium so I would assume that they are out there.

Ridiculous.

Beats the shit outta me farmer, I suppose they’ve watched the way the banks have ran themselves into the ground and they know they’ll be bailed out.

They’re also talking about rezoning and selling up in Montrose, so they obviously consider that a great asset.

[quote=“farmerinthecity”]Apparently RTE are skint.

Then why in the name of Jaysus are they showing this meaningless tournament? George was on this evening explaining that he had a two hour drive from the airport to the stadium so I would assume that they are out there.

Ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

Fair point. Our UK counterparts thought it important enough to show on BBC 3. They didnt even show the South Africa Iraq match which got pride of place on RTE1 this afternoon.

It must be an invitation job,im a better soccer player than theyre centre half,hes cat.

New Zealand qualified cause they won the Oceania cup. Limerick FC even had a NZ international playing for them at one stage a couple of years back and he could hardly make the team.

Anyone know what is the deal with non-stop sound of fog-horns going off at football stadiums in South Africa?

Sounds like a trivial thing but it absolutely bugged the hell out of me last night watching some of the Spanish match. It is such a droney non-stop sound to be coming out of one’s television so ended up flicking over as I thought I’d get a bloody headache!

Noticed also when Man Utd were playing pre-season there and Setenta (I think) were showing their games.

I can see it annoying me during next year’s World Cup if the stadiums end up full of locals.

http://www.oldcartoonsshows.com/images/longhorn.jpg

Brazil winning 3-2 against Egypt

As I type Egypt make it 3 all, 2 goals in a minute…Egypt aren’t a bad side…Zidan looks a very good player for them

[quote=“Phil Leotardo”]Anyone know what is the deal with non-stop sound of fog-horns going off at football stadiums in South Africa?

Sounds like a trivial thing but it absolutely bugged the hell out of me last night watching some of the Spanish match. It is such a droney non-stop sound to be coming out of one’s television so ended up flicking over as I thought I’d get a bloody headache!

Noticed also when Man Utd were playing pre-season there and Setenta (I think) were showing their games.

I can see it annoying me during next year’s World Cup if the stadiums end up full of locals.[/QUOTE]

Ah here, what the fuck. I just turned it on now. Very very irritating. I read something about it this morning, I hope FIFA will ban them at the World Cup.

Fook that!!! I don’t care if it is tradition they can shove those vuvuzela’s up their holes!

2010 Fifa World Cup
Vuvuzela: SA football’s beautiful noise

What’s plastic, a metre long, brightly coloured and sounds like an elephant? It’s the vuvuzela, the noise-making trumpet of South African football fans, and it’s come to symbolise the sport in the country.

It’s an instrument, but not always a musical one. Describing the atmosphere in a stadium packed with thousands of fans blowing their vuvuzelas is difficult. Up close it’s an elephant, sure, but en masse the sound is more like a massive swarm of very angry bees.

And when there’s action near the goal mouth, those bees go really crazy.

To get that sound out requires lip flexibility and lung strength - in short, a fair amount of technique. So be sure to get in some practice before attending a South African football match, or you the sound you produce may cause some amusement in the seats around you!

Vuvuzela supplier Boogieblast offers this advice: "Put your lips inside the mouthpiece and almost make a ‘farting’ sound. Relax your cheeks and let your lips vibrate inside the mouthpiece. As soon as you get that trumpeting sound, blow harder until you reach a ridiculously loud ‘boogying blast’.

What should it sound like? Try this .wav file from www.boogieblast.co.za

Descendant of the kudu horn?
The ancestor of the vuvuzela is said to be the kudu horn - ixilongo in isiXhosa, mhalamhala in Tshivenda - blown to summon African villagers to meetings. Later versions were made of tin.

Boogieblast offers a somewhat different story.

The trumpet became so popular at football matches in the late 1990s that a company, Masincedane Sport, was formed in 2001 to mass-produce it. Made of plastic, they come in a variety of colours - black or white for fans of Orlando Pirates, yellow for Kaizer Chiefs, and so on - with little drawings on the side warning against blowing in the ear!

There’s uncertainty on the origin of the word “vuvuzela”. Some say it comes from the isiZulu for - wait for it - “making noise”. Others say it’s from township slang related to the word “shower”, because it “showers people with music” - or, more prosaically, looks a little like a shower head.

The announcement, on 15 May 2004, that South Africa would host the 2010 Fifa World Cup gave the vuvuzela a huge boost, to say the least - some 20 000 were sold on the day by enterprising street vendors.

It’s a noisy thing, so there’s no surprise some don’t like it. Journalist Jon Qwelane once quipped that he had taken to watching football matches at home - with the volume turned low - because of what he described as “an instrument of hell”.

Viva the vuvuzela orchestra!
Cape Town-based music educator Pedro Espi-Sanchis has a different view, however: to him the vuvuzela is a rousing instrument that can, when tuned correctly, play in an orchestra as easily as a flute, violin or cello.

Espi-Sanchis says the vuvuzela is a “proudly South African instrument” with roots deep in local traditional music. He was introduced to it over 30 years ago by renowned South African ethnomusicologist Andrew Tracey.

A fan of football himself, Espi-Sanchis came up with the idea of a vuvuzela orchestra after realising that crowds at a match could coordinate their trumpeting to make music. “I heard the vuvuzelas at soccer games and the sound was not musical at all,” he says. “Vuvuzelas need to play rhythms together to really show their power.”

In 2006 Espi-Sanchis and Thandi Swartbooi, head of the South African traditional music group Woman Unite, launched a vuvuzela orchestra as part of the Cape Town-based uMoya Music organisation.

Made up of a core group of seven people, with Espi-Sanchis as conductor and soloist on the lekgodilo flute and six musicians each playing a vuvuzela, the orchestra made its first public appearance at the Johannesburg Carnival in December 2006.

Their first performance at a soccer match was at the Nelson Mandela Challenge match at Ellis Park stadium in November 2007, when Bafana Bafana took on the USA.

Espi-Sanchis found an excellent local football fan base to accompany the vuvuzela orchestra. Supporters of Bloemfontein Celtic football club, based in the Free State, “form one of the best fan bases in South African soccer,” he says. "In November [2007], we taught 60 of these fans to play seven songs in just five days.

“Each of our six musicians was responsible for 10 fans, and they taught them to play their parts. Celtic fans also taught us some of their wonderful songs, and together we supported Bafana Bafana at the Mandela Challenge by singing and dancing with the vuvuzela orchestra.”

“Now we want to bring up a fan base to support our national team,” says Espi-Sanchis. “The vuvuzela music can be learnt very quickly … we want to use the Celtic supporters as models for a national fan base.”

Whether or not Espi-Sanchis’ ambitions are realised, vuvezalas are bound to play an integral part in South Africa’s 2010 celebrations, and World Cup visitors are sure to go home with a vuvuzela or two tucked in their luggage - and a little ringing in their ears …

Article last updated: May 2009

Penalty for Brazil in the last minute…egyptian sent off for hand ball on the line

kaka buries it for his second of the match

[quote=“The Puke”]Brazil winning 3-2 against Egypt

As I type Egypt make it 3 all, 2 goals in a minute…Egypt aren’t a bad side…Zidan looks a very good player for them[/QUOTE]

Zidan’s a quality player alright. Didn’t really hit it off at Hamburg but he’s been good for Dortmund despite not starting great for them. He has some bag of tricks.

Ah well, at least Egypt gave it a pharaoh’ll crack.

That Italian kit is absolutely rank.