Is frank. Murphy the only man who gets a wage in cork Co board
No duirmuid o donovan as well.
And then the Coaching Officers.
Iām half way through it. So much of what he is suggesting is plain common sense. Hard to believe lot of it isnāt already in place.
Most ambitious piece is the reorganisation of the club calendar. He should be trying to drive that through from player level, make contact with captain of every club in the county and seek their input and go to the co board with a āmandateā from the club players across the county. Might get knocked back but then you go back to players and tell them your mandate was knocked back by your delegates and try to activate the players that way to push this through and get a mandate from their individual clubs (as opposed to just players) and go back to Co board again then ālast year we came with mandate from players, now I am coming with mandate from clubs. Here are the number that said they would support their players now we voteā. It would take years in all likelihood to resolve but forcing the club players to get involved in that way would be a huge step.
Of course in reality heād be kicked out of his job and barred from Co board meetings long in advance! If you made yourself so obviously the voice of the club player though and were a strong, vocal, public advocate for them then an assassination gets much more problematic
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Club players hardly give a fuck anymore. Alot of apathy to everything. Stories are the same across numerous clubs at all levels with a few exceptions. Lowering level of commitment every year on year.
If soccer sorted out its pitches i would say there would be mass moving towards it. A big hang up is the standard of oitches and how they get so bad in winter. The GAA has plenty pitches now that are year round.
But the attraction to play soccer for the winter with regular games (if) on decent surfaces (i donāt think people care about the weather) is growing. Have the summer off and fuxk being fucked around by the Gah.
Life has changed and its more about health, fun and life balance now. The GAA does not fit that at the moment.
I dont doubt that. But I think once you have one or two players in every club who give a shit it would be enough to give him something to work with. No fella is going to say he is not in favour of a better season structure if he is asked in a show of hand in the dressing room some night. There is your players mandate for that club
It isnāt a rocket science approach what Iām suggesting in. In all businesses most people are apathetic to change even if it will have a benefit for them. So you find a couple of advocates in every dept to nurse them along, which isnāt difficult if you donāt need huge input fr them. If he goes to the co board with a plan the first question asked would be āhow do you know the players want this changeā. Without having done the ground work they will just blow his proposal away
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If there is any value in the odds, lump heavy on Aghada Sat night.
Senior football isnāt fun, itās hard work. The craic came before and after. Itās probably a societal thing, young fellas arenāt as masculine for one thing, and the whole notion of playing senior, taking your belts and proving yourself on the field is gone out the window.
We have had a fairly successful underage setup but weāll struggle to field a junior champ team this weekend, mentors have had to tog on a few occasions through the league to have fifteen. Our 21ās should be there or thereabouts for that championship but thereās only two or three of them playing or even training with the seniors at the moment. The attitude is pure laissez-faire with them, they can get away with that in the soccer but it wonāt do for gah, so they just leave it off. Itās not even that theyāre health-conscious either Kev, Iāve seen the way theyāre living in college and diet and training (even for themselves) isnāt on their agenda. Cans and takeaways is closer to the truth.
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As an aside, I see all talk of Corkās inter-county teams was disallowed last night at the CCB.
I believe the word used was deferred
Iām sure it will be further deferred in August. Maybe a five minute discussion on a rainy November night.
Show some respect for the late Jim Forbes please.
Apathy seems to be the story all over. Weāve a generation of lads in their 30ās whoāve back boned the team for the last 5+ years and no one is coming through to replace them, the generation below them have emigrated, and the young fellas coming through arenāt fussed. Canāt get them to train or even text back that they wonāt be at training. They just donāt give a fuck.
Starting to show in the results now too.
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Thats college raylan. Thats not going to change for lads living away with fast metabolisms etc. I suppose i should be specific to image and health.
But what a few lads away at college do should not really detract from what i am saying.
I agree that young men have changed. But what the GAA is doing is just sticking with the lads who are not changing or will put up with the messing. The GAA needs to change, not society. Because soccer with a few small changes is set up to take advantage of how society is, rightly or wrongly.
I, and this is not blowing my own horn as i has 2-3 other fellas with me on the same wave length, recognized that my parish demographics had changed significantly. We had alot of city people move out. It became very upper middle class very quick.
4 years ago we had 3 football teams and used i think aomewhere noth of 60 players. This year they played a Senior County League game with 14 and have still to field for the 2nd team. I put that down to completely the people involved being totally disconnected with the demographics. All the floaters are gone, all the multi sport guys are gone. There is the bones of a Senior team not playing anymore and they are completely oblivious to it. They blame the players for not being committed. Its they cannot get up to speed.
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Yes a joke. I believe though that it was a "procedural " issue as due to Jim Forbes passing they only dealt with fixtures as Mark of respect
College was always that way, but youād still turn out at the weekend when you got home, regardless of what you did for the week. My experience is similiar to what @Julio_Geordio is talking about there, with lads not even bothered to answer a text.
Incidentally, one of the soccer teams out lads turn out for were relegated from the premier division here with the other one barely staying up, because the standard there has also gone up, with Clare teams getting to Munster and National finals, and winning the Oscar Traynor. Theyāll just tip away at that too, relegation didnāt really hurt there either. I was playing soccer with them up to the season before this, so Iād be reasonably in touch with their demographic Iād have thought.
I donāt know how you get a team up to the physical and skill standard required to play championship without them putting in the training hours. If there is a smarter, more efficient way to do it, Iād love to hear more.
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Christ, I could be listening to an echo. @Rintintin @Julio_Geordio and I have been having the exact same conversation for a nearly a year now.
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Would coaches still be trying to implement drink bans and the like now?
I donāt get what you are saying here . Are you saying the more commited fellas should drop the standards to make it more appealing and āfunā to the younger lads?
Not in our club anyways. Itās a pointless exercise without any real benefit.
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