Cork GAA 2018

Hes had no involvement with club since

Besides the point, Club should have dealt with the issue sooner ( immediately ).

They did. Dismissed as club coach days after incident.

Dismissed from Club?

Yeah.

july 12 2018, 12:01am, the times
Cork football can thrive if it’s run by a separate board
christy o’connor

Last weekend, the Cork under-16 footballers beat Kerry in a final of the Munster football tournament in Limerick. The Western Cork under-15s team defeated North Kerry and South Kerry en route to winning their competition. At under-14 level, Cork have four very strong regions, a couple of which could win the A final of that tournament next weekend.

Those wins and that progress provide further confirmation of the huge talent in the county. Cork will have one of the best minor teams in the country within three years. Cork will continue to be competitive at under-20 level because talent, or lack of talent, is not Cork’s problem — the core issue is what happens next?

Why are Cork not making senior footballers out of their underage talent? Yet is that even a fair argument either? Two years ago, Cork narrowly lost an All-Ireland under-21 final to Mayo in Ennis. Stephen Cronin, Kevin Flahive, Sean White and Michael Hurley from that team started against Tyrone last Saturday. Anthony Casey was on the bench. Sean Powter was injured, while Peter Kelleher came on in the Munster final against Kerry in June. Seven players from one team — a couple more have been part of senior panels in recent years — is more than a productive bounty from one underage group. Though something is clearly wrong when the Cork senior team continue to underachieve to an alarming degree.

Good Cork under-21 teams over the last decade have translated into very little for the Cork seniors. The county won six out of nine Munster under-21 titles between 2008-2017. In the same time, Kerry won one under-21 title. But Kerry continued to dominate at senior level; Cork continued to drift aimlessly.

The most worrying aspect of the slippage is the general acceptance of mediocrity in Cork. There is minimal support for the footballers. They have repeatedly let down the Cork public and a spirit of goodwill towards the senior footballers is practically non-existent. There is no real anger in Cork about their plight. If the hurlers were underperforming to anything close to that level, it certainly would not be tolerated. The hurling community would not shrug their shoulders like the football community always do. Because they have effectively given up.

That is a huge part of the issue here. Cork is a hurling county. Hurling will always be given priority in the mindset of the Cork GAA public. With that reality, it is natural that the footballers will almost feel like second-class citizens.

The Cork team that won an All-Ireland in 2010 completely altered that culture. Driven by a group of huge characters, leaders, they refused to accept their place in the natural order of Cork GAA. Cork football lost something when they lost that leadership. Some of those guys were excellent players but many of the players coming after them did not have the stomach to fight the same fight.

That fight will not get any easier any time soon so Cork football needs to stand up for itself more. And the ideal starting point would be to dislocate itself from hurling and forge its own path.

Geographically and culturally (especially with football the dominant game in the west of both counties), Galway are similar to Cork in many ways. Hurling is a massive game in the county but it has a distinct identity in Galway because there are separate hurling and football boards. And that is the route Cork football needs to take.

Administration in that context may be more difficult with eight divisions, and eight divisional boards, but if Cork football is to ever have its own identity it needs to have a separate football board. It would report to the county board but that body would give football the concentration that it desperately requires. With around 70 per cent of the focus in the county geared towards hurling, a separate football board is the only way they will ever approach an equal footing.

With a separate board, proper plans can be drawn up, all driven by football people with the same goal in mind. This week the former Cork footballer Colman Corrigan called for the creation of a ten-year plan, driven by the most experienced football minds in Cork football. Corrigan mentioned Larry Tompkins, Billy Morgan, Conor Counihan, Jimmy Kerrigan and Dinny Allen, who are now involved with their clubs. That level of knowledge, aligned with a solid development plan, could transform the direction of Cork football.

The talent is certainly there. There are more footballers than hurlers in the county but many of the best players are dual players. Four of the current starting senior hurlers — Eoin Cadogan, Shane Kingston, Damien Cahalane and Sean O’Donoghue — are good enough to be on the Cork senior football squad. The best dual players will always lean towards hurling. It is never easy asking players to make a decision on their future at a young age but they are the kind of hard questions — and hard decisions — that will help define the future of Cork football.

Talent identification, especially for players playing multiple sports, and particularly in and around Cork city, and then creating and facilitating the pathway for those young footballers to become senior footballers, needs to become an urgent priority for Cork football. Because if many of those talented players are not lost to hurling, rugby or soccer will claim them.

Yet that is only one of a number of plans that Cork need to initiate if they are to reclaim so much of the ground they have lost at senior level. These decisions need to be taken by a separate and independent board with a singular aim: what is best for Cork football.

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It’s ridiculously off what needs to happen.

Counihan et al are part of the problem. They all re not the answer whatsoever. And a 10 year plan is nonsense. Have a 3, 6 and 9 year plan.

And the development squads being successful is a sign of nothing. They are bigger and stronger than all the teams. They pick size over brain.

Development Squads should be dismantled and outlawed as they are currently set up. Telling kids at 13/14/15 that they are not good enough is sending out the wrong message. As you say its the bigger/ more developed kids that are selected and probably have developed as far as they are going to.
Obviously in Cork you could get 300 kids at one age group so the Development squads should be based on divisions. Have it open to all kids who are prepared to train and then have blitz type games every couple of months. I would have no county teams under the age of 16.

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Couldn’t agree more.
Blitz is the way to go.

Get coaches but also some former players just to be there. Take notes, give recommendations but no selections

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The behaviour of the cork stewards

What’s that about mate?

Mate, want to apologize to the forum for your england 4-0 prediction or your 3 goal Croatia vs France win

Munster council stewards

Sweep sweep

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Sweep me bollix it wouldnt bother me to see a few roasters being fucked off the field

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Were they bastards

Have Cork a game this weekend lads??

Pat Horgan cost ye the whole game. Bottled it again on the big day. Clowns like @caoimhaoin @Turenne going on about limerickse mentality all week :laughing: ye have made a hero out of a load of cowards :joy: ye are finsiehed for years. The highlight of the game was for me the sound of the noise of the seats clapping as the cork lads jumped up after pat Ryan’s goal. That was glorious. Lads almost in tears with their heads down buried. Humiliated. WE ARE CORK BOY. I had to meet a friend out the back of the cusack stand after wards. I soaked in the misery of the cork lads all around me. Utter cunts. WE ARE CORK BOY. My whole evening took a turn for the better when I saw the cork team filing out of the cusack stand Anthony Nash was inconsolable. I done a little dance with joy. How many puck outs did he send straight to limerick lads :joy::joy:The perverts the creeps the cunts were sent packing by a bunch of kids. Cork are finsiehed for years unreal. WE ARE CORK BOY. 6 points up with 5 minutes to go and they fucked it away :joy::joy::joy: lecture me know about corks mentality ye bunch of wankers @caoimhaoin @gilgamboa @Turenne

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I just remember @backinatracksuit :joy: this is glorious

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That’s a post written by a child. A child that’s pretending to snort coke off a young ones arse ten minutes ago. Go to bed FFS.

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