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Schools hurling in Munster is a much more level playing field. There is a huge spread of schools that have won it over the past 15/20 years across all 5 counties.

Leinster schools is dominated by the behemoth that is Kierans that have won 80%+ of the finals in that time I’d wager. At this stage Kierans are a problem for KK and Leinster hurling.

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These are the stats for winners in Leinster over the past 20 years. SKC haven’t won Leinster since 2017.

SKC - 11 - 55%
KK CBS - 3 - 15%
Good Counsel - 1 - 5%
Dublin Colleges - 2 - 10%
Dublin North - 1 - 5%
Castlecomer Community School - 1 - 5%
Coláiste Eoin - 1 - 5%

Morto for you…

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The Ormonds are circling

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Kierans won the 2019 final beating Colaiste Eoin and lost the 2018 and 2020 finals by small margins. I’d say Kieran’s have been in the Leinster final at least 15 times since the turn of the millennium and won 10+

Yeah, was talking to the coach of cbc yesterday. Said the experience of playing in harty final in 2020 stood to their lads. They had a very young team in 2020 with a good few 4th years involved.

On a more positive note, the first years in cbs are said to be the best to have ever come through the school.

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TBF Wiki where I got my information from doesn’t have 2019 documented. I’ve edited the original post.

They were in 16/20, winning 11 :see_no_evil:

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Kierans have also went on to win the AI in years where they didnt win Leinster.

2016 + 2018 IIRC.

Kierans are the big problem in KK hurling that i currently see.

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Cody still in situ is the bigger problem with KK hurling but I get what you’re saying.

The fact that transport to and from the City is a lot easier means that boys from further a field make their way into SKC. But in my time Eoin Kelly was on our bus coming in from Mullinahone so it’s been happening for years. Shefflin coming in from Ballyhale is another one.

I think Kierans are getting adjoining land and are planning to expand to over 1000 students. This will only make the problem worse. I’m pretty sure only Kierans and CBS are playing in Leinster A these days. A scatter of south lads no doubt in GC. However for hurling to kick on in KK it would be good to have Comer, Callan in the A as well. Would be better in the long run having 70+ lads exposed to that level as opposed to 35+ currently.

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I’ve been making this point for a while now and fellas wouldn’t listen to me.

A pity the Ballyhale lads don’t go to Scoil Arrigeal or whatever it’s called.

Probably one more so for the Kilkenny Gaa thread but Castlecomer seems to be a real underachiever in terms of Kilkenny hurling. It is probably as big a town there is in the county outside of Kilkenny itself yet they don’t seem to produce much

Would they have had much of a history of cricket there what with the mining?

Would Kierans B team be strong in Leinster lower grade competitions?

In what way? Surely player development is a much bigger issue or is Cody being blamed for that too?

Cody runs the whole show. Get him out and let the county get back on track, time to get out of this famine.

Yeah Midleton team to me looked very strong but nearly all under age again next year. They should be able to beat Blackwater and make it into qfs.

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That’s it. A year makes a huge difference physically. Some lads forget minor is u17.

Do we even know what the Leinster equivalent of the Harty is called?

No notion as no one gives a shit.

From what I can make out living in Munster over 20 years is that the following importance is given to hurling competitions:

  • Munster championship
  • Harty Cup
  • all Ireland senior
  • Munster u20
  • Walsh Cup or whatever it’s called
  • Munster minor
  • all Ireland senior
  • all Ireland u20
  • all Ireland minor
  • national league
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