Cork GAA Thread 2015

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Yip. Better footballer than Damien. Saw him other night with the footballers, played as a forward and kicked a few nice points. Has a bit of swagger Damien doesn’t.
I just hope he’s not broken down the same way the rest of them are.

The auld fella has been training the Barr’s senior hurlers and they are getting demolished. Has them running up hills on roads and all sorts. I’m led to believe they all go through it, Damien included and it’s his way of finding out when training with Castlehaven 21’s who really wants to play. Mad stuff.
On top of that he is facing a lengthy suspension for punching an u21 player who was marking Conor 2 weeks ago.
Lucky not to be facing jail by all accounts.

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From what I’ve heard we have as strong a group of forwards as we’ve ever had but we’ve problems from 2-9, specifically down the middle of the team, to the point in which full-back/center-back are still up for grabs and its possible Kingston will be midfield, despite being a natural half-forward. Heard Griffin is fave for 3 and Murphy for 6 though.

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Great dancer and fiddler apparently.

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[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1116973, member: 273”]Yip. Better footballer than Damien. Saw him other night with the footballers, played as a forward and kicked a few nice points. Has a bit of swagger Damien doesn’t.
I just hope he’s not broken down the same way the rest of them are.

The auld fella has been training the Barr’s senior hurlers and they are getting demolished. Has them running up hills on roads and all sorts. I’m led to believe they all go through it, Damien included and it’s his way of finding out when training with Castlehaven 21’s who really wants to play. Mad stuff.
On top of that he is facing a lengthy suspension for punching an u21 player who was marking Conor 2 weeks ago.
Lucky not to be facing jail by all accounts.[/QUOTE]
@TheUlteriorMotive - I don’t think this is very funny? Why do you.

It does let DM off the hook though in DC’s case if injury. From what I have been told recently the source may be even further back. Some bananas stories from people who would have no agenda.

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He offered me a role with the backroom team when he took over Cork football team so I found it amusing

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[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1117011, member: 273”]@TheUlteriorMotive - I don’t think this is very funny? Why do you.

It does let DM off the hook though in DC’s case if injury. From what I have been told recently the source may be even further back. Some bananas stories from people who would have no agenda.[/QUOTE]

I think he had a double hip operation in 2013

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At te time the dual training was blamed for this. No doubted it contributed, but it seems to go deeper than that.

Being a dual county player (even @minor)is clearly bad for your health.

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yep - any half decent dual player is crocked by 20

that young Kingston lad should be minded

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[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1117038, member: 273”]At te time the dual training was blamed for this. No doubted it contributed, but it seems to go deeper than that.

Being a dual county player (even @minor)is clearly bad for your health.[/QUOTE]
In Cork anyway.
Plenty lads in other counties were dual upto U21 before focusing on one for senior but continue as dual players at club level. Harmony between the teams played on is needed and obviously isn’t the case with the Cork seniors.

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[QUOTE=“Bad Winner, post: 1117055, member: 2406”]In Cork anyway.
Plenty lads in other counties were dual upto U21 before focusing on one for senior but continue as dual players at club level. Harmony between the teams played on is needed and obviously isn’t the case with the Cork seniors.[/QUOTE]
You are wrong.
The problem starts with these particularly talented lads around 16/17. It varies from year to year but for instance a couple of years ago there was virtually no communication between hurling and football at minor. Players were expected to be at all training. I had a relation playing 2 years minor both codes, and I think DC was a year older so they would have played together. Anyway DC played that year with the Barr’s senior hurling, Castlehaven Senior football, both u21’s, both Minors, both Cork Minor teams. That was pretty much done with absolutely no S&C and I know at least 2 of those teams were running the bollix off lads.
The chronic and acute injuries we are seeing now usually start between 16 & 21/22.
The CB will fork over a huge amount of money this year for sports science and in particular recovery strategies, yet at least 2 managements ignore it, completely.
Players should know better too though.

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[QUOTE=“Bad Winner, post: 1117055, member: 2406”]In Cork anyway.
Plenty lads in other counties were dual upto U21 before focusing on one for senior but continue as dual players at club level. Harmony between the teams played on is needed and obviously isn’t the case with the Cork seniors.[/QUOTE]
It’s gas a Clare man would be going on about cork when the dogs on the street know Davy wouldn’t even talk to Colm Collins last year.

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Competition: Senior Hurling Friendly

Fixture: Cork v Laois

Venue: Clough/Ballacolla GAA Grounds

Date: Monday 6th. April 2:30pm

Fans travelling to Ballacolla for the game are reminded to leave the M8 at Junction 3 - at roundabout take the 3rd exit onto the R433 signposted Abbbeyleix - then continue on to Ballacolla 3km.
The Cork senior hurling team to play Laois is named as:

  1. Patrick Collins (Ballinhassig)

  2. Conor O’Sullivan (Sarsfields)

  3. Damien Cahalane (St. Finbarr’s)

  4. Stephen McDonnell (Glen Rovers)

  5. Brian O’Sullivan (Fermoy)

  6. Aiden Ryan (Midleton)

  7. Killian Burke (Midleton)

  8. Brian Lawton (Castlemartyr)

  9. Andy Walsh (Killeagh)

  10. John Cronin (Lisgoold)

  11. Bill Cooper (Youghal)

  12. Jamie Coughlan (Newtownshandrum)

  13. Darren McCarthy (Ballymartle)

  14. Paudie O’Sullivan (Cloyne)

  15. Stephen Moylan (Douglas)

Subs:

  1. Anthony Nash (Kanturk)

  2. William Kearney (Sarsfields)

  3. Cormac Murphy (Mallow)

  4. Darren Browne (Kanturk)

  5. Darren Casey (Charleville)

  6. Luke Meade (Newcestown)

  7. Dayne Lee (Na Piarsaigh)

  8. Rob O’Shea (Carrigaline)

  9. Luke O’Farrell (Midleton)

Team Management: Jimmy Barry-Murphy (St. Finbarr’s) - Manager, Mark Landers (Killeagh) - Coach, Johnny Crowley (Bishopstown), Seánie McGrath (Glen Rovers).

Medical Officer: Dr. Con Murphy. Chartered Physiotherapist: Declan O’Sullivan.

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In fairness, I don’t think you can be using Davy fitz bizarre behaviour as an example of anything. So you can’t.

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[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1117068, member: 273”]You are wrong.
The problem starts with these particularly talented lads around 16/17. It varies from year to year but for instance a couple of years ago there was virtually no communication between hurling and football at minor. Players were expected to be at all training. I had a relation playing 2 years minor both codes, and I think DC was a year older so they would have played together. Anyway DC played that year with the Barr’s senior hurling, Castlehaven Senior football, both u21’s, both Minors, both Cork Minor teams. That was pretty much done with absolutely no S&C and I know at least 2 of those teams were running the bollix off lads.
The chronic and acute injuries we are seeing now usually start between 16 & 21/22.
The CB will fork over a huge amount of money this year for sports science and in particular recovery strategies, yet at least 2 managements ignore it, completely.
Players should know better too though.[/QUOTE]
What I cannot understand is where the parents are in all if this. I just wouldn’t allow my young lad to be trained or to be played like this. I would have no problem with dual per se, but he would not train fully for both. Skills, yes, full dual fitness training, absolutely not, and I would simply not allow him to play for all those teams, however proud I was of him.

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Ha, in one serious case the father is the trainer!!!

But I agree, problem often is these lads very often come from talented house holds and the parents kinda think it’s just like it was in their day.
Kids find it hard to say no, so I think that puts parents in a bad position.
I do know some parents do pull the plug or prevent the over trainin, but then you get lads being dropped.

In the 21’s this year one player asked not to play a challenge game as he had a schools final the next day. He was told if he missed the challenge game he was off the panel. Had to travel to Portlaois for a challenge game on a Wednesday night.

So ignorant management is hugely at play as well.

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Ignorant is the word. They give equivalence to their day when three laps of the pitch constituted warm up and fitness combined, and most of the games were spent standing around. Skill/ talent levels similar, fitness a different ball game, and it sufficed because everyone was the same.

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Ya, a guy came to watch us train recently, an old coach and friend of mine, and he was surprised at how old school the training was bar the warm up, which I admit is quite technical.
What most coaches don’t get is if you manipulate intensity & time you can get a huge amount of your fitness out of playing the game in modified ways.

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I have always thought that the best way to tone up to full match fitness is by playing matches, possibly modified in training.
Everything with the ball once a base of fitness is there.
I can never understand young lads letting the belly grow every winter, and start again from scratch in spring. It sets everything back.

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[QUOTE=“flattythehurdler, post: 1117364, member: 1170”]I have always thought that the best way to tone up to full match fitness is by playing matches, possibly modified in training.
Everything with the ball once a base of fitness is there.
I can never understand young lads letting the belly grow every winter, and start again from scratch in spring. It sets everything back.[/QUOTE]
To be honest there is far less of that but it still exists. You just don’t play them till their right a few months later. With most it will never happen again.

I’m fascinated by the fact many GAA managers still don’t use their power of selection do a lot of the arguing for them. If they want to play they’ll sort themselves out, if the heart really isn’t in it there will be a young lad or a minor who will. The other lad will let you down anyway when it matters.

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Cork play Limerick in the Electric Ireland Munster Minor Hurling Championship Quarter-Final on Wednesday April 8th in Páirc Uí Rinn. Throw-in 7:00pm.

The Cork U18 Hurling team will line out as follows:

1: Declan Dalton (Fr O’Neills)

2: Seadnaidh Smyth (Midleton)

3: David Griffin (Carrigaline )

4: Niall O’Leary ( Castlelyons )

5: Mark Coleman ( Blarney )

  1. Eoghan Murphy ( Sarsfields )

7: David Lowney ( Clonakilty)

8: Chris O’Leary ( Valley Rovers )

9: Darragh Fitzgibbon ( Charleville )

10: Tim O’Mahony (Shandrum )

11: Robbie O’Flynn ( Erins Own)

12: Shane Kingston (Douglas ) Capt.

13: Billy Dunne ( Fr O’Neills)

14: Ciaran Cormack ( Blackrock )

15: Michael O’Halloran (Blackrock )

Subs:

16: Barry Kenneally (Cuchulainns )

17: John Cashman ( Blackrock )

18: Kevin Murphy ( Killeagh/Itas)

19: Conor Cahalane (St Finbarrs )

20: Robert Bourke ( Ballincollig )

21: Billy Hennessy ( St Finbarrs )

22: Danny Gunning (Na Piarsaigh )

23: John Looney (Aghada )

24: Liam Healy (Sarsfields )

Extended training panel :

Donal English (Sarsfields )

Jeremy Saich ( Kilworth )

Matthew Bradley (Aghabullogue )

Sean Howard (Dromtarriffe )

Donnachadh Murphy (Douglas )

Darragh O’Brien ( Killeagh/Itas)

Eoghan O’Brien (Douglas )

Selectors: Denis Ring (Fermoy) Manager; John Dwyer (Ballincollig) Coach; John Mortell (Ballyhea); Liam Martin (Glen Rovers); Pat Hartnett (Midleton).

Trainer: Richard O’Leary (Ballygarvan). Medical Officer: Dr. Paddy Burke (Fermoy). Physiotherapist: John O’Mahony (Newtownshandrum). Logistics: Derek Connolly. Stats: Mike Mortell and Mike McGrath.