You brought up toasting the King.
Fee paying schools should pay 100% of cost themselves. The likes of @Tim_Riggins always whining about handouts for those that need it but nothing to say about state subsidies for those that donât.
Wouldnât have a problem if you move that way.
Studies have shown it saves the State money. Additionally it means we retain our uniformity of teacher salaries for the most part which is more equitable in good resources being shared across the state.
Anyway, youâre on the full deflection mode here.
Answer the question. Do you agree with the state subsidising schools that are only open to very few? Yes or no will do.
Can you read?
You have the disgraceful situation that the second best school in the State is situated in the poorest quarter of Dublin but takes only 2% of its intake from its hinterland. What a boost for equality of opportunity it would be if they could up that even to 20%.
The scummy soccer lads all togging in hazel bushes at the side of council pitches on Sunday morning then heading off to the local state of the art hurling stadium on the Tuesday in their man Utd and glasgow celt jerseys to sing and chant little songs about Rio and giggsy and buttsy.
The game of soccer in Oireland is in a very very healthy state
Your core point appears to be that the GAA had the smarts to play the political game but the rugby and soccer crowds didnât.
So you agree with Private Schools getting state funds but not the GAA. Good man Tim. Some tulip.
Heâs hardly deflecting. You brought up schools but did an about turn when you somewhat remarkably forgot about your own beloved CBC.
So you want them to increase scholarships then?
Why canât you stick to the point rather than deflect?
I didnât forget. It isnât particularly relevant.
The substantial work the CBs did was educating the working class and lower middle classes (when others wouldnât).
They promoted the GGA and not soccer.
Why did they do that in locations where soccer was king?
Itâs quite telling that you look for squirrels to deflect.
What?
Your core point seems to be that you think the ends justifies the means.
You think it is right what went on because the GGA couldnât stand on its own two feet.
Saying âdeflectâ to every poster who has a different opinion to yourself loses its impact after a while.
For a handsome rental fee.
The world over this happens.
When the FA were rebuilding Wembley they entered into a business transaction with the WRU to use the Millenium Stadium.
Did we see the level of arsekissing we did over it?
Ireland v England in 2007 was a historic occasion, no doubt about it. But what is conveniently ignored are that the rules against foreign sports preceded this.
You move on and get on with it.
The GGA actually didnât. It is brought up time and time again as some monumental act. The rule still exists with a couple of alterations. It was a business transaction at the end of the day and the GGA made great money out of it.
I do not see the relevance here.
You brought up fee paying schools and paying for some teachers. You seem to be all over the place in what you actually want with them but the argument is not exactly relevant to what we are discussing.
If it were the case that ârugbyâ schools outright banned the GGA then you might have a point in mentioning them. But they didnât. Blackrock College played hurling for donkeys years. The âRugby schoolsâ GGA competition had started when Liam Brady was being expelled from school for playing a soccer game over a GGA one.
If you want to get into the rights and wrongs of the state paying for teachers in all schools (and come up with a coherent argument unlike the flailing statements youâre making here), then go and start a thread on it.
My own beloved alma mater was a rugby school until the 1920s. Then one brother, Brother Malone arrived and in 10 years turned it into one of the greatest nurseries of hurling in the State. I suppose one of the problems that rugby had at the time was it didnât have these kind of zealous individuals in its ranks.