Coronavirus - Close the Airports

How so when the virus has been heavily suppressed in Ireland. Opening air travel is going to set it off like wildfire.

Time for the government to grow a pair of balls and tell the aviation companies to shove it.

It’s in the appropriate thread.

It’s more suppressed in most of Europe mate. Who do you believe is right, Ireland with one of the worst sets of results in Europe or the countries that did better than us?

We are not going to eradicate the virus. The best we can hope for now is that we trundle along with daily cases in the 10’s or 20’s.

We literally can’t afford to stay locked down. Personal responsibility is king now.

That’s exactly it. Same as with the flu virus, the cold virus, etc. We need to get it into our heads that sick old people will eventually die, and locking down the country and employing Draconian controls over the population will never change that.

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I agree on lockdown but I think the government need to do more to encourage the personal changes needed though. Rules around wearing masks in shops, hand sanitisers being essential at doors etc. As it stands people are going back to completely normal which looks like being dangerous.

Considering that the scientific community have made a bollox of this, they should focus on advancing bed design. Make them more comfortable and usable as we spend the rest of our lives under them, the useless shower of bastards. They might come up with something.

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Tubbers spent the first 15 minutes of his show preaching about going on foreign holidays and how dangerous it is.

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Apparently we learned no lessons. We introduced restrictions in a drip drip way with big lags before shutting down pubs and then cafes and restaurants while the countries that did well did it in one go.

Now we are reopening without rules in place for reopening. Again, other countries had clear rules on masks etc in place before opening.

Ireland’s approach of “strong advice” is bad. It creates uncertainty. It also creates tensions. People being strongly advised to wear masks isn’t helpful because some will and some won’t, the ones that do will be seething at the ones that don’t but both will be equally justified, it’s not fair on either. Simply introduce clear rules and be done with it.

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The reality is they are too embarrassed to bring in face mask rules because they spent so long telling us they were useless.

I think most of us have enough cop on to realize that the reason they didn’t mandate face masks was that they were scarce and they wanted to keep what was available for frontline workers. I don’t think many would have an issue if they changed the approach now.

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Even this seems an absolutely crazy theory I can’t think of another reason. Irish people in general are pure laid back even about their own personal health and safety. There’s a kind of embarrassment too about being seen to take yourself too seriously. You can see that in how long it took seat belts and cycling helmets to become normal for eg. Prob loads of other examples. We need to be forced to wear masks simple as that.

I wouldn’t have any issue with them saying if you go into a shop you have to wear a mask. Fairly simple really. Now you can’t very well wear a mask in a restaurant or a pub, so I don’t know what you do there. But shops would be a start.

Shops and supermarkets are where they are needed

Agreed. They still don’t wear face masks in the hospital though unless they are at risk of exposure to covid. A&E etc. So its a bit of a weird one.

Exactly. And staff could wear them. Things are actually completely back to normal now in peoples behaviours apart from spreading out a bit in queues and no big events. In and out of houses, meeting in groups it might not end well. Hopefully the new government will be more decisive with Micheal in charge :roll_eyes:

I don’t know is that the reason. There seems to be an real reluctance to being in actual restrictions and regulations.

The template for us to follow exists in the countries in Europe that have done well on this. Instead we haven’t learned any lessons and are ploughing our own furrow. For some reason we haven’t taken the obvious step to mandate masks on public transport but we are slower to allow travel than all the countries that have done better than us.

We made a hames of this and are now continuing to make a hames of this.

Could it be hobbled indefinitely?