I wasnāt. Doing a big job here cleaning stuff out of the house.
Then how can you explain the amount of absolute wasters who have got tested?
Ah will you stap how do you explain the negatives. People are googling the symptoms to talk themselves into a test. The same few hundred who clog a and e for the craic have now found a new way of expressing themselves
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The HSE panicked and told docs to test everyone even with mild symptoms. Thereās plenty of seasonal stuff still doing the rounds. You cant see a doc right now, you are screened by phoneā¦ 90% of people ringing docs are legit iād say, other illnesses havent gone away. itās the docs discretion to recommend a test.
iām hoping the new criteria crosses me off the list now and i can walk Brady guilt free @TheUlteriorMotive
Why do you hate people so much? No matter the issue, youāll always find reason to dismiss a large chuck of the population as stupid or crazy ā Now youāre right in lots of ways, but whereās the love?
People were told to self isolate. I didnāt hear anything about being told they need to be tested if they have mild symptoms.
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Are you a doctor or working in the HSE?
Why are you getting so defensive when itās absolutely clear a huge number of idiots are clogging up the testing system? Is it because you are one of them?
The guidelines are very clear.
SF IRA supporters turning on each other.
Itās fascinating to watch.
@anon7035031 @Julio_Geordio, I donāt think we should bore each other talking about this theory that none of us really know for certain, and will be proven or disproven in a few weeks anyway but I am reminded of the work of Karl Popper, the famous philosopher of science guy.
Popperās theory on science was basically that any theory should be assumed valid until you have evidence to disprove it. So you put forward a theory that is consistent with the evidence you see in the world and that seems to explain the evidence you see in the world and then you have to assume that theory is correct until you have fresh empirical evidence that contradicts it. It would seem to me that the situations in Germany, South Korea, Italy and Spain contradicts the Oxford Polytechnic theory.
Iāve a bit more than that.
Weāve been talking a lot on here about how unhealthy Italy is, how they smoke so much, etc, and how that helps explain things:
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Italy has the highest life expectancy in the EU, higher than Germany (pre-Covid 19). Both Italian men and women have a higher life expectancy than German men and women. Iām guessing that north Italians probably had the highest life expectancy of all, probably the highest in all Europe.
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Italian people smoke significantly less per capita than the Germans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette_consumption_per_capita
The age profile of the Italian population still explains a lot of Italyās disaster but fundamentally the only real explanation is that Italy got badly infected and the other countries donāt have as high a rate of infection yet.
I see this as real-world evidence that contradicts the theory and the theory should be dismissed as per what Popper says.
Like I said though, I donāt see much point in wasting our time talking about this when weāll find out soon enough anyway. One way or another there will be a lot of disgraced British experts when this is all over.
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iāM not, and no ā¦ you seem under the illusion that people can just ring up and get a test willy nilly. They couldnt- Doctors were following HSE advice. I wont be getting tested now thankfully.
Iām not under any illusion. The facts clearly show that there are lots of people looking for tests that donāt need them. The facts show that these people are currently clogging up the testing system and have created a long backlog which could damage the effectiveness of testing.
Itās black and white and youāre disputing it.
How do you know what people were looking for? Youāre making it upā¦ The HSE widened the net for mild symptoms and thatās what clogged it up.
The figures you idiot. Look at the figures. A 40k backlog, 97% negative results. People were told to self isolate if they had mild symptoms, take some personal responsibility.
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Iran.
2206 new cases. 143 new deaths.
The HSE have realized THEIR mistake and have tightened the net again. If people are feeling unwell they contact a doctor. Thatās generally how it works. Doctors were sending people for testing with mild symptoms, not patients.
People were told to self isolate and call their gp, you were probably getting different messages up there
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It;s mind blowing the gymnastics people will go to to shout at everyone elseā¦ imagine feeling unwell and having the neck to contact a doctor.
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