Coronavirus - Dig In, It's going to be a while yet

[anon78624367]

South Korea created 300 drive through clinics and were getting results back within hours.

A remote temperature reading, questionnaire and throat swab. 10 minutes.

The key thing here is they had the results back in hours.

Why did they go with a strategy they hadn’t capacity for in the first place, by your logic?

[gilgamboa]

@Appendage

I’m not a real doctor but surely there’s too much focus on ICU capacity? I thought having a ventilator handy would be the main thing and sure haven’t we loads of them on the way?

You need an aneatatist to intubate a patient onto the ventilator becuase they need to be sedated and a specialist nurse to monitor around the clock…not many of either around apparently

[Tim_Riggins]

Would be interesting to know what the efficiency is of labs generally and how scale impacts.

[Dziekanowski]

@anon78624367

South Korea created 300 drive through clinics and were getting results back within hours.

A remote temperature reading, questionnaire and throat swab. 10 minutes.

The key thing here is they had the results back in hours.

Why did they go with a strategy they hadn’t capacity for in the first place, by your logic?

NATIONALISE KRISPY KREME

[tallback]

@Dziekanowski

@tallback

Like, reading most twitter-type hot takes on testing, its absolutely clear they’ve no idea what is required in terms of equipment, facility, personnel or consumables to carry out 1 test, let alone thousands per day.

The government had no idea but shure blame away on people on Twitter, personal responsibility and all that, yeah.

I’d say the gov are getting a crash-course in testing, both from a public health strategy perspective and from a logistical/execution perspective. Which is to be expected. You didn’t have a notion about either a month ago but its fairly clear you’re an expert now so presumbably you agree it can be achieved.

What I would say is that the likes of the NVRL and other testing organisations are highly professional organisations so I’d trust their knowledge and capabilities.

[anon78624367]

They had one lab and I think scaled to two.

Saw a bit a week or two ago where there were samples in boxes in corridors.

[Julio_Geordio]

@anon78624367

Why did they go with a strategy they hadn’t capacity for in the first place, by your logic?

Didn’t realise every Thomas Brady and Harry were going to clog the system with their sniffles

[Dziekanowski]

The fact is the government’s testing strategy failed. So why are you blaming people on Twitter for that rather than the people who are responsible - the Fine Gael government?

What happened to personal responsibility?

What have people on Twitter got to do with it?

[anon26343222]

They live on the edge all their lives with kim launching rockets , this is no problem to them . Stay in doors and do a swab .

[anon78624367]

But the plan was to test everyone. You’d imagine they’d have planned to scale

[Thomas_Brady]

sweep sweep… Blaming innocent people instead of the decision makers…

[Julio_Geordio]

@Dziekanowski

The fact is the government’s testing strategy failed.

Jaysus, you don’t have high expectations of them anyway.

[the_man_himself]

@Dziekanowski

The fact is the government’s testing strategy failed

That remains to be seen surely? Its likely of course

[tallback]

@anon78624367

South Korea created 300 drive through clinics and were getting results back within hours.

A remote temperature reading, questionnaire and throat swab. 10 minutes.

The key thing here is they had the results back in hours.

Why did they go with a strategy they hadn’t capacity for in the first place, by your logic?

I think they are ramping all elements at the same time and also continually seeing how best to adjust.

From afar, it would seem like there are two separate issues. One is the actual logistics of the system - how to to ramp to a capacity of thousands per day triaged, swabbed, tested and reported. A complex system to build at scale in a couple of days and one of the reasons that other countries haven’t even tried I’d say

the second is how you target that capacity. They’ve changed the criteria twice. I’d say your point about getting such a low hit rate was the reason for the recent change.

[fenwaypark]

@Arthur

Cracker of a tune and cracker of a pair of diddies. Is that aoc in the black and red t shirt??

It is and it is.

[Julio_Geordio]

They are doing the best they can. They have limited testing capacity and are facing an unprecedented situation. 1 in 20 people who are being sent for testing have it, so they are revising the criteria to make better use of limited resources. Surely no one can have an issue with that?

[anon7035031]

You might want to revise your math… again.

[Dziekanowski]

@Julio_Geordio

1 in 20 people who are being sent for testing don’t have it

Show your workings.

[anon78624367]

I’ve no issue with any of this bud.
I’m only asking questions.

I cant wrap my head around so many people testing negative with such an aggressive virus.

I just hope the actual testing isnt broken, no matter about the scale

[tallback]

@Dziekanowski

…The fact is the government’s testing strategy failed. So why are you blaming people on Twitter for that rather than the people who are responsible - the Fine Gael government?What happened to personal responsibility?What have people on Twitter got to do with it?

And once again you veer directly into hyperbole and absolutism. No reasonable person could claim the testing strategy has failed or succeeded -it’s still in progress.