The numbers arent a mile from each other. Certainly the fatalities arent. Have a look at that sciencedirect piece re Italy.
60k+ dead in four years from influenza (there are many different types of influenza)
10k dead in one month from covid 19 (just the one virus)
What was the % of new tests, mate?
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Letās face it, when people talk about restrictions and āthings returning to normalā, they mean pubs, not anything else.
China is still getting cases and theyāre four and a half months into it.
Elderly will never escape this in the open.
Whatās the % of people that were due to unfortunately die anyway? If they got the common cold or a pneumonia etcā¦Iām not convinced that this is as bad as it seems.
No idea
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theyāre wheeling coffins out of hospitals in military trucks.
I donāt think that would happen under normal circumstances.
Iām willing to compromise and drink only in beer gardens, in the national interest
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Neither of us know that, mate.
It wouldnāt have been filmed on Sky News anyway previously. Was there really 300? Did you count them?
As the man says, donāt waste a crisis.
Pubs, restaurants and hurling.
Other than that the whole thing isnāt too bad.
Weāll have to keep saying itā¦ Either most of us get it or we get a vaccine. Itās just a matter of time for both.
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neither of us know that the military had to bring coffins from Bergamo in Italy?
But shur if you take those people out of the figures , you may as well take the 500 odd health workers diagnosed out of the equation as well.
How many health workers get sick in March needs considering too Mike though? The figures weāre getting could be very misleading. How many of the 500 havenāt even got a cough for example?
Think these questions should be asked. If for nothing else a bit of peace of mind about ones family.
ok, they could get sick, but not in the numbers weāre seeing, and they have to self isolate taking them out of the picture. If there were 500 all at the same time health care workers getting sick in regular flu season, youād hear about it.
i think this is the part you are missing about this. The flu season is a full season and spread out, the rate of transmission is linear as we are mostly vaccinated, it mutates etc but most people have some form of immunity, so it remains linear,
this is a virus we donāt have immunity to and itās rate of transmission is exponential, a vast number of people wonāt even get sick, the reality is a lot of elderly people will die and a smaller percentage of younger people will also die.
If everyone is getting this at the same time, then unless we take measures, there will be a raft of avoidable deaths and Italy will be replicated everywhere.
It isnāt the flu, or in any way comparable to the flu
Iām starting to lean towards the fact that this virus was here long before we were testing for it mate. Maybe Iām wrong, but the numbers suggest to me that multiples of people have had it rather than the cases here suggest.
Surely, the 1st case who tested positive here wasnt the actual first. And in that scenario, potentially it is a seasonal flu.
The question should be asked at least.
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Put it this way @The_Most_Infamous
Italy currently have 101k (circa) cases
11,591 have died
14,620 have recovered.
for the remaining 75k patients, thatās not a great ratio
Course it was here lo g before it was tested for. Italy was riddled long before they started testing. There were probably scores of people who were in italy during/immediately after Christmas.
potentially itās a seasonal virus that we have no immunity for right now, which is why it has the potential to cause havoc, until A. We have a vaccine or B. We develop immunity.
What are you not getting here? What donāt you believe?