What would you consider to be the maximum censure for refusing to give your name and address to a Garda? Have you ever read the court reports in local newspapers?
June Kelly, 72, of Prospect Court, Mullingar, Co Westmeath was charged with failing to give her name address when required by a garda on Lower OāConnell Streetā¦
She was also charged with leaving her place of residence in contravention of the Health Act 1947 and Section 31A of the Covid regulations.
Over 70s leaving their house is actuslly a crime??
They are convening special sittings of courts for the awful offence of not giving a name and address to a Garda.
Does that not strike you as disproportionate
Are we obliged by law to give our name and address?
Well yes, but I was dealing with a separate issue, which is media publishing their names, this isnāt disproportionate for ani offence which carries enormous public interest whether right or wrong.
A good friend of mine once had his name published in the Cork examiner because he got so drunk that he couldnāt stand up, drunk and incapable was the offence he was charged with Iād I recall correctly.
Yeah thatās what they got GOD for
Are you sure? If a guard walks up to me on the street Iām obliged to tell him my name and address?
They wouldnāt ask, theyād all know you.
Des Cahill had a good yarn about playing corner forward for a club in Kerry while he worked for The Kerryman.
It was an awful night, lashing rain but one lad turned up to watch it. Shouting encouragement and praise to Des in first half
After half time yer man repositioned himself other end of the pitch and continued with his support. Des was confused as he didnāt recognise his big supporter.
The game ended and Des had kicked a couple
Of scores and they won. Yer man approaches Des and introduces himself. Des asks if he knows him and thanks him for his supporting.
Not at all says the man. But Iāve a court case next week in Tralee would you mind keeping my name out of the paper.
I would have thought so? If heās abusing his position Iām sure you can file a complaint.
The Gardai policing the protests are doing their job, Iām not sure what criteria they use to select people to speak to, but if a Garda asks your name in an official capacity then I presume you need to give it to him. If you refuse to do so then you certainly canāt blame him for refusing to give ground and lose face
If they suspect you have committed an offence (and protesting is now an offence*) they can use statutory powers to demand it. Failure to do so can lead to arrest.
*Heaven help us
Surely he has to caution you first or something?
So telling them your address is incriminating yourself in this incidence so best to say nothing.
Thatās an interesting point. You would essentially be confessing by giving your address.
If they suspect you of having committed an offence.
If asked for name and address you need to give it but ask them what offence they suspect you have committed and take a note of that as that suspicion is basis of their request to be lawful.
Exactly. Tell the pig ignorant bastards nothingā¦ 7 of them manhandling a girl to the ground yesterday and @backinatracksuit reckon they get a pass because they were only doing their job.
TNH
Most likely.
Itās the old ābang to rightsā situation popular in detective stories.
Refusing to give your details is counterproductive UNLESS you want your name in the paper Iād say
An offence is being suspected of being outside your 5km