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Flu and cold weather contributed towards 50,000 excess winter deaths last year

03 December 2018

There were over 50,000 excess winter deaths in England and Wales last winter, the highest recorded since 1975/76, according to data released by the Office of National Statistics (ONS).

The increase is thought to be a result of the prevalence of flu last year, alongside ineffectiveness of the flu vaccine and colder than usual temperatures in the 2017/18 winter period, according to the ONS.

The excess winter mortality rate, which compares the numbers of deaths between December and March to the average number of deaths across the rest of the year, continued to be the highest in females and people aged 85 and over.

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However, the rate also doubled among males aged 0-64 years between 2016/17 to 2017/18.

Over one third (34.7%) of the excess deaths between 2017/18 were caused by respiratory diseases.

There were also 28% more deaths from circulatory diseases compared with non-winter months, which accounted for nearly a quarter of the excess deaths.

Nick Stripe, health analysis and life events statistician at the ONS, said: ‘Peaks like these are not unusual – we have seen more than eight peaks during the last 40 years.’

But Dr Jennie Harries, deputy medical director at Public Health England (PHE), highlighted the importance of all vulnerable groups receiving the flu jab to avoid excess winter deaths.

Dr Harries said: ‘The winter of 2017/18 saw an intense flu season and some very cold weather. Such weather particularly affects people who are already vulnerable, increasing the risk of heart attack and stroke.

‘We have made new flu vaccines available, including a more effective vaccine for all adults aged 65 and over.’

But her comments come as global supply issues affecting the new over-65s flu vaccine has caused chaos this vaccination season.

Some 2.5m elderly people in England had yet to be vaccinated when the last batch of supplies was delivered towards the end of last month, while in Scotland fewer than four in 10 over-65s were vaccinated.

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regardless of incidence rate?

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Yes.

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You’re a fucking moron then

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Good point well argued.

Yet oddly enough you have no problem with 700 on hospital trolleys during flu season or 50k excess deaths.

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you don’t seem to have a problem with 1,853,068 deaths and rising - despite every effort in the World to stop it. You seem to want more before you’ll maybe accept a restriction or two

it reached 1 million deaths in September
in the 3 months since then we’ve had 800k+ deaths

The situation is worsening. But carry on comparing it to the flu, saying only old and sick are dying etc all because of some bitter agenda against the “free state”

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Turns out it is just another flu after all

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I read that got to the bottom and I see he’s pals with yer one from Twitter that keeps getting posted here.

Now I am sceptical

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50k excess deaths in the UK alone in that winter flu season.

I’m saying how it’s odd that you care if someone dies from Covid yet you don’t give a toss about people dying from flu.

I think the cure is doing a lot more harm that the problem and you’ve dismissed people whose plight has worsened under lockdown and access to support services and facilities has been deeply compromised. Apparently those groupings do not matter to you.

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I’m wondering is that an issue with the accuracy of the tests?

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Ok, you’re just repeating yourself now and putting words in my mouth in the absence of them.

We’ve reached our usual Fulvio conclusion I think

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It will be interesting to see what happens in Australia when they approach their Autumn/Winter.

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Utterly, utterly false.

We know for absolute fact that Covid deaths are overstated, this is confirmed by pretty much any body who records these deaths. If you had Covid and got knocked down by a bus, you died from Covid.

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Repeating myself because you don’t think it matters than 2 years ago, in the UK alone a rampant winter flu season saw 50k excess deaths.

Should there have been a lockdown then?

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what the fuck can be done about that now you absolute simpleton?

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You think it might spread exponentially?

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Should we lockdown for every winter flu season from now on?

Is that a mechanism we should now use?

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I enjoyed this exchange in the thread

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You continually refuse to accept that Sweden believe that if they continue with their initial response (which you are advocating) their health system will be over-run, something you don’t want. You are contradicting yourself.

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No, we shouldn’t lock down for every flu season from now on.

If it is deemed a pandemic, that has no vaccine, and people are dying with the possibility that it will overwhelm health care systems to the point where they break, then yeah. Maybe limiting social interactions and helping out isn’t a bad shout

Will it take 700 in ICU for you to open your eyes?