Coronavirus - the deadly virus that no one dies from

[mickee321]

what we have established if you could keep up is that this is a boutique cold that is only of any remote concern to a certain subset of the population where it can be fatal, therefore those individuals need to be quite literally locked away.
The hysteria created by out of context reporting as illustrated by copper pipe has folk believing it to be different.

would you see it any differently?

[Jahan]

You’re doing your best and I might agree with you if I could understand the essence of your argument.

[Copper_pipe]

@mickee321

The hysteria created by out of context reporting as illustrated by copper pipe has folk believing it to be different.

Hysteria?

You seem to be the only one triggered by my posting of the figures.

[mickee321]

you have mac locking down his house ffs

[backinatracksuit]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Very few rathkeale travellers go to school.

That’s not true, I taught in St Anne’s for a couple of terms, the traveller kids Porterhouses much all go to school while they’re around Rathkeale

[Julio_Geordio]

@backinatracksuit

the traveller kids Porterhouses

Are they serving food?

[Feech_La_Manna]

For Christ sake man

1. Capitalize the first word of every sentence.
2. “I” is always capitalized, along with all its contractions.
   Example: I can do it.
   Example: I’ll do it tomorrow.
   Example: I’m going to do it now.
3. Capitalize the first word of a quoted sentence.
   Example: She said, “I can do this.”
4. Capitalize a proper noun.
   Example: Eiffel Tower
   Example: Christopher Knight
   Example: Federal Bureau of Investigation
5. Capitalize a person’s title when it precedes the name.
   Example: Doctor Smith
   Exception: Mr. Smith, the doctor at the hospital, came to check up on me.
6. Capitalize any title when used as a direct address.
   Example: “Will you please answer the question, Senator?”
7. Do not capitalize names of seasons.
8. Capitalize points of the compass only when they refer to specific regions.
   Example: I have relatives visiting from the South.
   Example: I drove south to the end of the block.
9. After a sentence ending with a colon, do not capitalize the first word if it begins a list.
   Example: These are my favorite foods: chicken, potatoes and bread.
10. Capitalize the first word and all the words in titles of books, articles, works of art, etc. excluding short prepositions and conjunctions

[tallback]

@mickee321

@Copper_pipe

3 deaths

84 cases

51 cases in Dublin.

6 in Offaly, 5 in Kildare.

Remaining 22 across Cork, Donegal, Galway, Mayo, Meath, Roscommon, Tipp, Westmeath and Wicklow.

ok…
any explanation for the dramatic increase in daily death rate?- we’ve gone from <0.01 to >2.5%?
age profile of deceased again is very important and the status of their pre existing health.

again - do the numbers jive with the model that this is a “boutique” type of virus as it is only of concern to the aged and infirm?*

thanks man

• or on here - my child has a cold - he / she could be seriously ill with corona - im so worried, etc

Here - I am very very confident the little lad doesn’t have Covid - I’m not sending him for a test out of any sense of concern. I’m sending him because that’s the current guidelines for kids, particularly with Creches etc.

As I said earlier, I think its very OTT and is going to cause massive disruption over the winter. It’s a pain in the hole for me anyway

Now @Mac and @Juhniallio on the other hand …

[Tim_Riggins]

They’ll be needing those rapid tests for the winter if there is to be a hope of having capacity.

[mickee321]

@Feech_La_Manna

For Christ sake man

1. Capitalize the first word of every sentence.
2. “I” is always capitalized, along with all its contractions.
   Example: I can do it.
   Example: I’ll do it tomorrow.
   Example: I’m going to do it now.
3. Capitalize the first word of a quoted sentence.
   Example: She said, “I can do this.”
4. Capitalize a proper noun.
   Example: Eiffel Tower
   Example: Christopher Knight
   Example: Federal Bureau of Investigation
5. Capitalize a person’s title when it precedes the name.
   Example: Doctor Smith
   Exception: Mr. Smith, the doctor at the hospital, came to check up on me.
6. Capitalize any title when used as a direct address.
   Example: “Will you please answer the question, Senator?”
7. Do not capitalize names of seasons.
8. Capitalize points of the compass only when they refer to specific regions.
   Example: I have relatives visiting from the South.
   Example: I drove south to the end of the block.
9. After a sentence ending with a colon, do not capitalize the first word if it begins a list.
   Example: These are my favorite foods: chicken, potatoes and bread.
10. Capitalize the first word and all the words in titles of books, articles, works of art, etc. excluding short prepositions and conjunctions

Thanks for the f/b, its definitely an area i Need some upSkilling on.
However, my strengths and weaknesses aside, you are aligned with me and the rest of the forum i’m sure that the way in which NEHPET ( and look we’re using @Copper_pipe here in jest) are communicating numbers without any depth on a daily basis are leading to hysteria in the population.

Also, the measures being put in place by NEPHET are having a massive impact on the vast majority of the population who are in no way statistically impacted by this virus from a medical perspective.

you cant find fault with that? *

*punctuation aside

[grapes]

How dare you write such a sensible post

[mickee321]

@grapes

How dare you write such a sensible post

yeah

lets just go back to @Copper_pipe giving us numbers… its easier for the boys who are under the bed, they are so far snowed in their minds arent able for rational thought.

Its an absolute travesty this, the lazy man’s analysis is of course, we need to lock the entire country down to protect the vulnerable. This of course is folly, you lock down those who are vulnerable and we have 7 months now of data per @Copper_pipe that these folk are aged, infirm and the vast majority reside in a care setting.
Throw every euro at protecting those folk, put security cordons on care homes if necessary as it’s life and death and provide adequete PPE for everyone who enters these buildings as an employee or a visitor.

The negligence and deflection is disgusting, the deceptive reporting of the information has lead to fear mongering, this of course serves as a get out of jail card for the government who by now should have nursing homes locked down, instead were are making noise about schools and gah matches and mass gatherings of those who the illness has been statistically proven to have no medical impact on.

If a sick 4 year has C-19 there is no data to show it matters, these kids and guys like me and you need to be kept away from vulnerable people and the government should be implementing policies with care homes to make it absolutely impossible for the virus to enter those settings .

i really cant see what the issue is, the information being sent out by the media is misleading, there are unsubstantiated cases , rumours even of long term impact on asymptomatic folk but in the 8 months since this virus has been in Europe these cases are merely anomalies at best to false stories at worst .

This whole taskforce needs an independent facilitator with no vested interest to ensure those running it are working with the correct data and following a model based approach.

its not happening tho
@Copper_pipe and his numbers are the default

[Tierneevin1979]

But the numbers support your/our argument, relatively no one is dying from Covid in Ireland any longer. What the government (and @Copper_pipe) should be doing is explaining why that is rather than panicking every time cases increase.

[PhattPike]

@Batigol

Deaths seem very high. Any word on when they occurred?

Limerick in the clear

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Coronavirus - the deadly virus that no one dies from

In the past week there have been two new clusters in residential care facilities - one of which was in a nursing home. If this virus has anything about it then you would expect an increase in the death rate (from its current level, zilch) shortly relating to these.

On the flip side, that’s an unraleable turnaround from Limerick.

[tazdedub]

No dancing or music in pubs

Garvan Grant (garvangrant)

[peddlerscross]

Michael McNamara knocking it out the park here

[mickee321]

but those numbers [quote=“Tierneevin1979, post:9618, topic:31704, full:true”]
But the numbers support your/our argument, relatively no one is dying from Covid in Ireland any longer. What the government (and @Copper_pipe) should be doing is explaining why that is rather than panicking every time cases increase.
[/quote]

You are correct and i spoke to @Copper_pipe on this last night .
He is doing NEPHET’s bidding by calling out case numbers , these case numbers have had lads on here pulling their kids out of school as they believe this virus is associated with death.
I asked @Copper_pipe could he perhaps provide a week on week survival rate update based on the last 30 day rolling average - the current figure is at 99.87%.
99.87% of positive cases survive this @Copper_pipe.
Now, the initial death rate has decreased, again this death rate was unique to the subset of the population in care homes only, it did not impact the general population. Either we are keeping the virus out of care homes , the people in there have already been cleaned out of it or it has become less aggressive. Without any hard supporting data id imagine its a combination of the three.
Keeping the virus out of these places is of the utmost importance and that can be done with PPE and strictly controlled access. if a mask @Copper_pipe can stop the virus , surely full chemical PPE will more than suffice for the staff and visitors to care homes.
I would proceed like that for now, open the country but lock down hard the vulnerable

[Raylan]

Is there anything stopping you drilling down into these figures yourself?

[Batigol]

@Copper_pipe just gives information. Valuable it is too. Others can interpret it however they want

[mickee321]

@Raylan

Is there anything stopping you drilling down into these figures yourself?

There’s not actaully
i derived that number of 99.87 manually last night from posts on here ( im serious)
@Copper_pipe is providing the daily numbers so im sure he has them saved in JMP or some other stats software, excel would do even
if he sends them on ill run thru them