yeah agreed
Look all I was trying to do was give him a bit of coaching, he’s a decent fella.
Nanny state is out of control here
You were going on like he is a propaganda mouthpiece for NPHET. A grand decent fella, agreed.
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How about smiling?
He gives the figures. It’s valuable because, naked and without scaremongering, the figures show, clearly, that we have nuked the economy over (relatively) nothing
I was not, no.
i was merely highlighting to him how data can be misinterpreted and how one needs to carefully consider what they present when they stand up on stage.
Indeed they do.
However these case figures are being used as supporting data to cripple the economy also.
Me, you and many on here can see through this, the vast majority cannot and in “real” life even less so.
Go out tomorrow and tell a few randomers C-19 is nothing, they’ll quote back @Copper_pipe 's numbers and tell you cases are rising and maybe we’re next for lock down
Did @Copper_pipe give you a wedgie or something one time? The dreaded auld double nipple twist maybe?
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He nearly had me fucking arrested last year
A chinese burn. That’s probably not ok to say anymore is it
Chi-nese burn. Now it’s acceptable
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Ah i was merely querying how he showed the numbers, in no way should we be discussing the poster or personalizing the issue.
You always have a few who down that rather undignified route , @Copper_pipe is a sound man, which by the way is irrelevant in the context of the actual discussion and was never up for debate
I don’t.
Not much to misinterpret I think.
X is number of tests completed
Y is the number of tests that return a positive swab.
Test more and you’ll find more cases.
Don’t test and you’ll find no cases.
If Y is a large number then you’ll generally see it reflected within the number of confirmed cases figures a few days later. For example, 406 positive swabs over the weekend. 307 cases were confirmed on Tuesday.
These numbers are published on the Covid Hub website. See my point above.
Test more and you’ll find more cases.
Stop testing and you’ll find no cases.
If I just posted the number of tests that returned positive, then fair enough.
Im giving the figure for number of tests AND number of which returned positive. There’s not much else to it.
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Yeah. Lock the old people up in there, pumped full of drugs, riddled with fear, and no access whatsoever to their families. A truly fucking awful way to die.
We’d all appreciate a “holistic” take accompanying the figures each day. For those that don’t do numbers good. For example:
“Shit tonnes tested. Not much Covid”
You could probably just copy ‘n’ paste the above each time.
Cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases…
It’s not only that. If you happen to work in those homes and you provide care for those people. If you brought in the virus you could have deaths on your conscience. Now those people are in certain places to see out their life but the people caring for them try to give them as much time and comfort as possible
We need to get these 90+ year old people out of care homes. Maybe some of the IT experts on here could develop a dating app for them so they can get married again and have another family. We could lobby the county councils to relax planning laws so people in their 90s have an easier route to building houses in which to raise their new families.
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and what exactly are you proposing as an alternative?
serious question
Its obvious from the numbers the only group at risk of death are those in residental care, you agree with me ?
So is the obvious thing to restrict access to those people and ensure those who they are exposed to be it family members or staff are adequtely prepared to ensure those people ( the elderly) are not at risk.
Is there a problem here with doing the right thing?
Everything else is fucking lip service pal, if those folk are and they are its statistically proven at a high risk of death from this then you fucking protect them properly and by protecting them i dont mean making @Mac sending his 3 year old for a test and closing a school, this is non value added and is adding a whole element of human glue to a critical situation.
jesus man, what is wrong with you?
We have to make the best of a bad situation and those folk have it the worst and that’s a fact, but they need to be protected till this thing passes thru