yep that’s becuase Rosh ha shanah is on Friday, a week later Yom Kippur and then Sukkot - its like 3 weeks of christmas.
So - the problem here is the Haredim , they are living in dire poverty in most cases in densely populated cities lilke Bnei Brak and really poor parts of Jersualem, huge families and will cram synagogues for these three weeks. These people dont respect the rule of state law in most cases as they living by the Talmud, dont watch TV and take their guidance from the chief rabbi on all matters. The rate of the virus in their communities would be explosive , they and arabs in places like saknin are seen as the main source of the thing but if Netanyahu calls to lock down Haredim cities they will pull out of his unity governmet, if he locks down Arab cities he’s called a racist so he’s locked the whole place.
here is an intersting graph tho
now its a logarithmic scale on the x axis ( cases are in five buckets, each incresing by a factor of 10) - but depite its huge amount of cases- israel has very low death rate - similar to iceland.
Ireland is high BTW - its in the upper end of the distribution for deaths for a given case count, italy , UK also very bad - India actually looks quite good along with Russia .
Bottom line is case v deaths ratio is obviously linear - you need to be on the bottom part of the distribution around the red line tho
looks like “they” are reading the forum afterall…
After 6 months of this thing and the data staring them in the face you have this line below which although staggering is not surprising
Im not buying the “enormous sacrifice” element , the alternative is death and it is supported with data
There have been, she said, inconsistencies in how nursing homes have facilitated visits up until now and it would be helpful if the Minister for Health could provide a roadmap for the implementation of the nursing home expert report.
I have sympathy with it because the reality is that the median length of life length once you enter such a facility is 5 months. That might be extended a bit now because the flu will have been curtailed, but it’s no life not being able to see family. We don’t want to have discussions on trade offs though.
If I still knew someone in such a facility, I’d personally pull them out of it.
That said, visitor restrictions, reduced agency staffing, better PPE etc. all help with it and hopefully we can balance the quality of life with the need to try and avoid large uncontrolled outbreaks.
Tim , I 100% agree with you on having sympathy for those in residence but the reality is a disproportionate amount of them have died.
These are the harsh realities im afraid and from what i can see if we want to give them the best protection then restricted visitors and adequete PPE for staff members is the best solution.
This discussion has arisen from trying to assess the benifits of imposing restrictions on the general population who are by and large not impacted at all by this virus , however they world the live in and the economy is.
So, why did we impose restrictions in the first place, it was to reduce the spread of the virus, we now know the virus is statistically only of concern to the aged and infirm in residential care ( a few anomalies aside ) so why bother at all with restrictions on general population? The only reason you would do it is to reduce the infection rate that would then “in theory” reduce the probability of the thing getting into a nursing home.
Are we still willing to play with this idea?