Coronavirus thread - 19/10/2020 - The Day Ireland Died

[johnnysachs]

Yes the hospitals are always overrun at the best of times. But it is now becoming clear that NPHET are weaponising this fact as an instrument to bring about another lockdown and alleviate the burden the healthcare system faces. If they thought locking down the country in other years with no pandemic was an option they would run with it.

[balbec]

[Bandage]

Are those 5 simpletons in their own sub-group in the Dáil to claim speaking rights? Healy-Rae x2, Mattie Mc, Mick Collins and yer man with the truck in Limerick.

[EstebanSexface]

that is some collegiate of cunts

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@EstebanSexface

Bergamo/Lombardy, where there are estimated 50% levels of antibodies in the population had 251 cases recently, among the highest in Italy I think.

@Tank

We can rent a spot in Bergamo together next year when it’s Covid immune.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@EstebanSexface

how? if 5-10-15% percent of the people have had it and it’s necessary to get to 60-70% they are inconsequential at those levels. Having them walking around with a 95-90-85% population that haven’t had it has absolutely no bearing on the spread.

How do you think it gets to 60-70% levels?

[EstebanSexface]

it spreads among the people who haven’t developed immunity, which is what @Batigol is bizarrely claiming it doesn’t do.

@Batigol

My post suggested that having them around, will mitigate the spread of the disease, to some extent.

[Bandage]

@Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy

Did anyone clock how Martin kept saying “ketch” last night rather than “catch”?

What a dimwit.

Aside from the hands thing, the knarly teeth thing (cc @Mac), the way he pronounces words where the first vowel is an “i” amuses me greatly. Micheál Martin saying the word “rise” is very funny.

[Copper_pipe]

Three groups of Independents in the Dail to claim speaking rights.

The Rural Independents

The Regional Group

The Independent group

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

The more people with antibodies the more it will struggle to transmit surely. The spread would surely be less if antibody levels were at 15% as opposed to 5%, as his grows and grows and grows it will be interesting.

The biggest issue in Ireland is the health service.

The biggest problem with the virus globally is that science, the smartest kid in the class, is actually as much a dunce as the rest of us.

[EstebanSexface]

I’m not so sure that’s true given how populations move and interact. Possibly when it reaches close to the percentage required it may be slower to get over the line and reach the required percentage, which, paradoxically isn’t great either

Science may be struggling to come up with answers now mate, but the dumber kids are still looking towards it for answers with a vaccine and strategy. It’s all we’ve got

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

Look the vaccine will probably never come or it will kill the lot of us.

It’s there, we just have to see how it develops but right not the potency of the virus, looking at the trends, doesn’t seem to be as fatal as it was early doors.

[Batigol]

That’s exactly what I claimed.

Having people with immunity in the population will limit the spread.

Again i did not mention here immunity and encouraging the spread.

[EstebanSexface]

@Batigol

Having people with immunity in the population will limit the spread.

it won’t at the levels we’re currently at. At all. Are you suggesting the 5% to 10% of the people who have possible immunity only meet each other when they’re out and about?

[EstebanSexface]

this trend isn’t noticeable globally. There are still 5-6k deaths notified per day.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

Cónal Thomas (ConalThomas)

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@EstebanSexface

this trend isn’t noticeable globally. There are still 5-6k deaths notified per day.

The virus is at different stages, China and Europe were the initials outbreaks and deaths are well down on peak levels.

[Batigol]

No. I’m suggesting that if they meet others with it and then go home, they won’t have caught it to then spread it on. That will slow the spread, however slightly.

Person A has Coronavirus. Meets person B who’s had it and is immune. Person B then meets person C and doesn’t spread it to them.

[EstebanSexface]

that’s how it works alright when herd immunity is close to achieved. Even then people will still get sick from the virus.

at the current levels of assumed antibodies, the spread of the virus will not be mitigated in any way shape or form hence social distancing and guidelines

deriving from your example, with 10% immunity assumed and one person meets 10 people, someone with the virus passes it on to 3 others on average (for example)

Person A has covid19 - meets 10 people. 1 immune. 3 get infected. Person B now has covid19 meets 10 people, 1 immune, now 7 now have the virus. Person C from original meeting meets 10 people, 1 immune 3 get infected.

The spread isn’t mitigated by the number of immune until herd immunity is achieved

[Tim_Riggins]

I thought the rest was more of an attack.

Telling them that they haven’t thought through what they’ve proposed and picking it apart is far worse. That was questioning their competence.

The point on the PUP was that Government have to take broader based decisions in the context of public health vs economy line that Byrne was going down. That is the same always.