Thatâs fine now but we canât assume the cheap money is going to be there as long as we need it. Itâs like bailing out the banks because the commercial property they held as security was worth more than the loans - what seems logical today can quickly look ridiculous. If the market turns we could be picking up the phone to the IMF again very, very quickly.
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Heâs a civil servant, heâs not aware of the real
World.
Health service was fucked before this, mrsa and other bugs were killing people so why shut down the cou try now as we have a new virus? The mortality rate is extremely low it doesnât make sense
Spain is interesting.
1st wave circa Feb - July
325,874 cases - 28,445 deaths - mortality rate 9%
2nd wave Aug - present
592,349 cases - 4,679 deaths - mortality rate 0.8%
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If you donât get the risk of the whole exponential growth thing and people dying at this stage of the game then there really isnât much point in discussing with you.
Wouldnât we look incredibly stupid if we ended up with a Lombardy type situation on the second wave.
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Except that all of Europe is in the same boat and we have now established that the ECB will facilitate the borrowing for the needs of EU countries to deal with the effects of covid.
This is a whole different ballgame itâs nothing like the last recession.
We would indeed.
Of course, we already look stupid with our pointless banning of flights to countries that have done better than us, and our more restrictions and more cases and more deaths than most of Europe.
Does travelling not increase exponential risk?
No. The European centre for disease control say it doesnât.
Ireland has more restrictions on travel than any other EU country and yet has higher rates of infection so that would prove that for me.
Pointless comparing a second wave to a first wave. Mortality rates are down hugely in the second wave at present. Madrid and Lombardy were anomalies.
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So we should export the virus to other countries? Bring it on an EU roadtrip is it?
we havenât banned flights to anywhere
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Other countries should probably ban us from travelling actually because weâre riddled.
No but we have the 14 day isolation thing applying still. Ineffective as it is it stops most people from attempting to travel.
itâs an advisory. people can travel if they wish. There is nothing banned in terms of entry and egress from the country.
Signing up for the EUâs traffic lights system might mean irish people are banned from entering certain states as our incidence is currently quite high
Case are rising but are thr deaths? 2/3 people a day will die with covid (if they die because if it is another arguement) on average 90 people die in ireland a day. Is 2 deaths in 90 a big enough issue to close down the country? The HSE has been a disgrace for years so thatâs no reason to shut down the country. Everything about the response to covid has been way over the top. If your happy to stay locked in as the economy doesnât effect you grand. But herd immunity is the way forward whether it is policy or we fall into it
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The Dubs literally crapping out COVID.
He wants lockdown but also wants foreign holidays.
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